Re: [3gpp-ietf-coord] Re : QCI to Diffserv mapping

Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Thu, 04 July 2019 07:14 UTC

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Thanks, Lionel!

Magnus, with the information below, do you need anything else at this point?

Regarding the coordination meeting in Montreal, Magnus can probably get
us a room with a conference bridge (or we can use a laptop, as I think
we did last time). Our traditional slot for that is Monday lunch.

By the way, do you have a draft agenda for the coordination meeting, in
addition to this topic?

Cheers,

Gonzalo

On 04-Jul-19 01:40, lionel.morand@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Gonzalo, Martin, 
> 
> We have discussed this point with Georg. According to the purpose of the
> draft and early reaction of 3GPP folks, it appears that there is
> currently no requirement for such mapping done in IETF. 
> 
> The QCI/DSCP mapping is only for information, as the final mapping will
> be nyvow decided by network operators, based on the QCI values but also
> on other criteria defined by the operators. 
> 
> Moreover, if you look at the 3GPP TS 23.203 specification across
> releases, you will see that the new QCI values are continuously defined
> by 3GPP depending on new use cases. For instance, there is an ongoing
> didcussion to create additional values. So having a document defining
> the mapping at the IETF side would seem not relevant as the RFC, even if
> informational, could be already obsolete when published. 
> 
> There might be a need to have an update version of the mapping but, if
> deemed required, interested parties should bring such a material in
> 3GPP, to allow maintaining up to date the document.
> 
> According that there is no specific requirement from 3GPP and an IETF
> RFC, even information would be quite useless, 3GPP would be reluctant to
> see any recommendation on the QCI/DSCP mapping provided in a IETF
> document that would not be under the 3GPP control. 
> 
> Now, from an IETF point of view, if there is a strong push for such a
> document, except the natural push from the authors, it would be up to
> IETF to decide what to do in this area. If it is decided to move
> forward, it should be made clear in the document that the proposed
> mapping is only for information, not a recommendation, given as example.
> It should also be highlighted that the QCI values listed in the document
> may not be up to date. 
> 
> I hope that the feedback is clear. 
> Anyhow, it will be useful to discuss this point in our coordination
> meeting. Unfortunately, I will not be in Montreal but, if we could set
> up an audio bridge as last time, it would be great. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Lionel
> 
> 
> -------- Message original --------
> Objet : Re: [3gpp-ietf-coord] QCI to Diffserv mapping
> De : "DOLLY, MARTIN C"
> À : Gonzalo Camarillo
> Cc : MORAND Lionel TGI/OLN ,Magnus Westerlund
> ,3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org,tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org,vshaikh@perspectalabs.com,sdas@perspectalabs.com
> 
>         Greetings
> 
>         The NS/EP service in the USA has major issues w this draft that
>         is against efforts we standardized in 3GPP and ATIS
> 
>         We commented on the list and communicated w author, little changes
> 
>         If this became a 3GPP dependency, we and the others would have
>         sustained objections
> 
>         Thanks 
> 
>         Martin C. Dolly
> 
>         Lead Member of Technical Staff
> 
>         Government & Services Standards
> 
>         AT&T
> 
>         Cell: +1.609.903.3360
> 
>         Email: md3135@att.com <mailto:md3135@att.com>
> 
> 
>         On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo
>         <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com
>         <mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Hi Lionel,
> 
>             did you reach any conclusion? In particular, I would like to
>             understand
>             whether we need to organize the traditional 3GPP-IETF
>             coordination
>             meeting on the Monday of the upcoming IETF meeting in
>             Montreal to
>             discuss this or other issues.
> 
>             Thanks,
> 
>             Gonzalo
> 
>             On 02-Jul-19 13:11, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> 
>                 Hi Lionel,
> 
> 
>                 yes, exactly; knowing 3GPP's position on this would be
>                 very helpful in
> 
>                 order to decide on next steps. Please, let us know after
>                 you touch base
> 
>                 with Georg later today. Thanks.
> 
> 
>                 Cheers,
> 
> 
>                 Gonzalo
> 
> 
>                 On 02-Jul-19 11:58, lionel.morand@orange.com
>                 <mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:
> 
>                     Hi Gonzalo,
> 
> 
>                     We will discuss this point with Georg today during
>                     an 3GPP internal coordination meeting.
> 
>                     On the tsvwg mailing list, I think that the
>                     conclusion was to set up a discussion at the next
>                     IETF meeting to see what could be done in this area.
> 
>                     Honestly, I'm not sure that such a work would be
>                     useful if not supported by 3GPP. So if anything is
>                     finally done, it could only be for information.
> 
> 
>                     Coming back to you later.
> 
> 
>                     Regards,
> 
> 
>                     Lionel
> 
> 
>                         -----Message d'origine-----
> 
>                         De : Gonzalo Camarillo
>                         [mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com]
> 
>                         Envoyé : vendredi 28 juin 2019 16:09
> 
>                         À : MORAND Lionel TGI/OLN; Magnus Westerlund;
>                         3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org
>                         <mailto:3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org>
> 
>                         Cc : tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org
>                         <mailto:tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>
> 
>                         Objet : Re: [3gpp-ietf-coord] QCI to Diffserv
>                         mapping
> 
> 
>                         Hi Lionel,
> 
> 
>                         I have not seen any follow up on this issue
>                         during this month (see
> 
>                         below). What is the current status? Thanks.
> 
> 
>                         Cheers,
> 
> 
>                         Gonzalo
> 
> 
>                         On 29-May-19 12:37, lionel.morand@orange.com
>                         <mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:
> 
>                             Thank you!
> 
> 
>                             I have seen the ongoing discussion on this
>                             topic.
> 
>                             I will send soon an email clarifying the
>                             current 3GPP position on this topic.
> 
>                             It is important that any work on the QCI
>                             mapping is aligned with real 3GPP
> 
>                         requirements.
> 
> 
>                             Regards,
> 
> 
>                             Lionel
> 
> 
>                                 -----Message d'origine-----
> 
>                                 De : 3gpp-ietf-coord
>                                 [mailto:3gpp-ietf-coord-bounces@ietf.org] De
>                                 la
> 
>                         part
> 
>                                 de Magnus Westerlund
> 
>                                 Envoyé : mercredi 29 mai 2019 11:09
> 
>                                 À : 3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org
>                                 <mailto:3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org>
> 
>                                 Cc : tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org
>                                 <mailto:tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>
> 
>                                 Objet : [3gpp-ietf-coord] QCI to
>                                 Diffserv mapping
> 
> 
>                                 Hi,
> 
> 
>                                 A topic that may require coordination
>                                 between 3GPP and IETF is this
> 
>                                 individual proposal
> 
> 
>                                 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dhenry-2Dtsvwg-2Ddiffserv-2Dto-2Dqci_&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=G9v8uCSSQhCmpw7ItG0r2g&m=OV4zFc-ZgJ46PZ4x9UvfXkTAVPAgFzc3jf6cvGf6x0g&s=XunaN7YxIvVUKNlYB0LFqWpZkcOVXTV8rK7BUaJlvyo&e=
> 
> 
>                                 It has been presented once in TSVWG
>                                 before, when questions where
> 
>                         raised
> 
>                                 about the relation to 3GPP. I haven't
>                                 seen any good answer to this
> 
>                                 question. Also the authors have updated
>                                 the draft and that has resulted
> 
>                                 in some additional discussion in this
>                                 thread:
> 
> 
> 
>                         https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailarchive.ietf.org_arch_msg_tsvwg_r3jAeNPcz83K0nFyQD4yObJkC-2D&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=G9v8uCSSQhCmpw7ItG0r2g&m=OV4zFc-ZgJ46PZ4x9UvfXkTAVPAgFzc3jf6cvGf6x0g&s=fzf5xDu0zA-11_7wZOZws5A-XtDJHPg8MX6T3brLff4&e=
> 
>                                 A
> 
> 
>                                 So far no decision has been made if this
>                                 should be adopted or not, but I
> 
>                                 would not be surprised if the TSVWG
>                                 Chairs and I (as TSV AD) do get the
> 
>                                 question about adoption.
> 
> 
>                                 Input from a 3GPP perspective would be
>                                 appreciated on this document.
> 
> 
>                                 Cheers
> 
> 
>                                 Magnus Westerlund
> 
> 
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