Re: [3gpp-ietf-coord] IETF - 3GPP coordination meeting at IETF 116

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 17 March 2023 13:22 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>, "3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org" <3gpp-ietf-coord@ietf.org>
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* Right, a long time ago they asked us to simply put the email in a WORD document, which is what we have been doing all along. Alternatively, as you suggest, we could discuss with them so that they update their process and accept emails. 

Well I think there might be some gap here, and the datatracker now sends out emails with the complete LS based on what is entered into the Datatracker and that will go to the 3GPP secretariat. So I think there might be need to have a bit discussion with the tools people here if what we send out should be written into a PDF or something in a structured way, or if there are some intermediate step that doesn’t send out the LS before it has been put into a form that the receiver body will find acceptable. 

Cheers 

Magnus