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Re: [5gangip] Network tokens draft

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Fri, 10 July 2020 14:44 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:44:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: [5gangip] Network tokens draft
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 7:40 AM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> It has already been announced that this list is no longer dealing with 5G issues.
> We decided to move to 6g, please check recent mails.
>
> As such your topic is no longer of interest and we invite you to join us into the new and exciting area of 6G.
>

Very well, if people are interested in further discussion please post
on the Network-tokens list.

Tom

> Behcet
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:28 AM Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:10 AM John Grant <j@ninetiles.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > This adds even more per-packet processing and makes headers even bigger.
>> > In ETSI ISG NIN https://www.etsi.org/technologies/non-ip-networking
>> > we're working on reducing them, as mobile operators (and no doubt
>> > others) want, by getting all this information into the control plane
>> > where it belongs.
>> >
>> John,
>>
>> Network tokens provide the API between an application on a UE and the
>> network for the application to specify exactly the service it wants.
>> At the first hop in the network, the device can compress the headers,
>> use MPLS, put into some non-IP format, whatever it wants as long as
>> the user gets the service they've requested and correct protocol
>> behavior is maintained. If the operator wants to create a state for
>> every single flow in their network that's their prerogative, but good
>> luck scaling that to hundreds of billions of flows and getting it to
>> work seamlessly across mobile events-- the "connectionless" model of
>> IP replaced "circuit-switched" networks for good reason!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> > --
>> > John Grant
>> > Nine Tiles, Cambridge, England
>> > +44 1223 862599 and +44 1223 511455
>> > http://www.ninetiles.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 09/07/2020 18:00, Tom Herbert wrote:
>> > > This is a draft on "Network Tokens" which is of relevance to
>> > > facilitate fine grained QoS in 5G networks.
>> > >
>> > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yiakoumis-network-tokens-01
>> > >
>> > > There is also a mailing list in
>> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/network-tokens
>> > >
>> > > We are planning to present in tsvwg and app aware networking and
>> > > possibly have a side meeting on this topic in IETF108.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Tom
>> > >
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