Re: [5gangip] Requirements on Github

Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> Thu, 14 June 2018 14:25 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:24:57 +0200
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Subject: Re: [5gangip] Requirements on Github
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catching up with mail….

> On 12 Jun 2018, at 20:39, Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>> Hi Behcet,
>> 
>> I just had a look to the github, and I think that the "Addressing
>> Requirements” need more work.
>> 
>> It currently just state:
>> 
>> IP addresses should not expose specific geo-location of users.
>> 
>> Now, when you use  a mapping system you mapping something into something
>> else.
>> Usually are addresses (ID) into addresses (LOC).
>> So the question is: Shouldn’t we make a difference in the requirements of
>> these two ? Or you think just a general requirement about Addresses is
>> sufficient?
>> 
> IMO, the requirement should refer to IP addressing in general. More
> specifically, it should be something like

You mean that it applies whatever the IP is used for, whether it is an ID or a LOC does not matter it still has to respect the same requirements?


> 
> "IP addresses should not encode information that would allow
> correlations by untrusted third parties which could expose user
> identity, location, or other Personally Identifiable Information
> (PII).”
> 

Looks OK, but I would add the second paragraph with the example. so to better clarify what a untrusted third party is.

> The "untrusted third party" is relevant to idloc protocols since this
> allows the possbility of locators being used in a closed and secure
> network that could containt sensitive privacy information. Exteral to
> that environment (i.e. in the Internet) addresses must meet the
> privacy requirements.
> 

L.


> Tom
> 
> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ciao
>> 
>> L.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11 Jun 2018, at 16:57, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Based on Tom's post, we created a requirements txt file and p[osted it at
>> our Github depository
>> 
>> atick_requirements.1.txt
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Behcet
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