Re: [5gangip] Network tokens draft

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Fri, 10 July 2020 14:26 UTC

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:26:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: [5gangip] Network tokens draft
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:10 AM John Grant <j@ninetiles.com> wrote:
>
> This adds even more per-packet processing and makes headers even bigger.
> In ETSI ISG NIN https://www.etsi.org/technologies/non-ip-networking
> we're working on reducing them, as mobile operators (and no doubt
> others) want, by getting all this information into the control plane
> where it belongs.
>
John,

Network tokens provide the API between an application on a UE and the
network for the application to specify exactly the service it wants.
At the first hop in the network, the device can compress the headers,
use MPLS, put into some non-IP format, whatever it wants as long as
the user gets the service they've requested and correct protocol
behavior is maintained. If the operator wants to create a state for
every single flow in their network that's their prerogative, but good
luck scaling that to hundreds of billions of flows and getting it to
work seamlessly across mobile events-- the "connectionless" model of
IP replaced "circuit-switched" networks for good reason!

Tom

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>
> On 09/07/2020 18:00, Tom Herbert wrote:
> > This is a draft on "Network Tokens" which is of relevance to
> > facilitate fine grained QoS in 5G networks.
> >
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yiakoumis-network-tokens-01
> >
> > There is also a mailing list in
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/network-tokens
> >
> > We are planning to present in tsvwg and app aware networking and
> > possibly have a side meeting on this topic in IETF108.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> >
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