Re: [5gangip] Soliciting Ideas on Direction in 6G

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Mon, 13 July 2020 20:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [5gangip] Soliciting Ideas on Direction in 6G
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Further to our previous mail:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:14 AM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Please check this out:
>>
>> http://jultika.oulu.fi/files/isbn9789526226842.pdf
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Behcet
>>
>>
>>
> Hi all, thanks for good comments on the above white paper.
> Now we need to identify some directions, possible one for us that most of
> the people in the list would be happy about.
> The direction should be different than  NMRG (network management research
> group) which discusses AI and machine learning aspects,
> and COINRG (computation in the network)
>
> Also consider that improvements to IPv6 is an IETF subject
> and radio link technologies are out of scope.
>
> But still some directions in network virtualization and/or slicing could
> be OK.
>
> In short, we need to be a bit specific on what we want to do.
>
>

Please read the white paper which has three main chapters on:

-service based architecture SBA which suggests mandate driven architecture
MDA, we have seen no comments on this

- new IP architecture, we have seen many comments on this

- network and data analytics services, we have seen no comments on this.

Regards,
Behcet & Dirk
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> Regards,
> Behcet
>