Re: Water features Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)

Iljitsch van Beijnum <> Wed, 28 March 2007 18:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: Water features Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:51:31 +0200
To: John C Klensin <>
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On 28-mrt-2007, at 19:40, John C Klensin wrote:

> While my preferences run to hot water, preferably flavored with  
> tea, rather than ice water, the answer is the same -- insulated  
> bottles or mugs, refilled at appropriate breaks.  Certainly that is  
> not as convenient as having beverages continually available, which  
> I prefer too, but it works reasonably well as long as beverages are  
> not dispensed by the glass or bottle by meeting site staff who  
> consider each one a valuable resource to be carefully controlled.

> So, again, I consider this a matter of convenience, probably even  
> relatively important convenience, not one of necessity for people  
> (even a subset of people) to attend the meeting.

Well obviously nobody died of dehydration at an IETF meeting that I'm  
aware of, but the problem is that there is no reasonable way to get  
at anything drinkable around the conference rooms between 9 and 15  
hours under the Prague regime. (And it was a lot worse in Paris, I  
think they even turned off the taps in the bath rooms.) So if, like  
me, you tend to skip lunch because running out, eating in a hurry,  
and running back is either a waste of time or a waste of food  
(depending on the quality of the latter), then this scores very high  
on the annoyance scale. Being able to buy beverages helps a little,  
but the portions tend to be so small at hotel type venues that this  
isn't much of a solution.

Either have fountains, coolers or big (~500ml) bottles of the stuff.  
The meeting fees have increased by nearly 50% in 10 years and are  
around double what's needed to cover costs. Water sec costs in the  
order of $1/cubic meter (where I'm from at least) so I don't think  
this is too much too ask for.

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