Re: Water features Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 28 March 2007 19:09 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Subject: Re: Water features Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)
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At the risk of, once again, being accused of favoring only North American meetings (which I have never done), I can't find any way to disagree with any of this. john --On Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:51 PM +0200 Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com> wrote: > On 28-mrt-2007, at 19:40, John C Klensin wrote: > >> While my preferences run to hot water, preferably flavored with >> tea, rather than ice water, the answer is the same -- insulated >> bottles or mugs, refilled at appropriate breaks. Certainly that is >> not as convenient as having beverages continually available, which >> I prefer too, but it works reasonably well as long as beverages are >> not dispensed by the glass or bottle by meeting site staff who >> consider each one a valuable resource to be carefully controlled. > >> So, again, I consider this a matter of convenience, probably even >> relatively important convenience, not one of necessity for people >> (even a subset of people) to attend the meeting. > > Well obviously nobody died of dehydration at an IETF meeting that I'm > aware of, but the problem is that there is no reasonable way to get at > anything drinkable around the conference rooms between 9 and 15 hours > under the Prague regime. (And it was a lot worse in Paris, I think they > even turned off the taps in the bath rooms.) So if, like me, you tend to > skip lunch because running out, eating in a hurry, and running back is > either a waste of time or a waste of food (depending on the quality of > the latter), then this scores very high on the annoyance scale. Being > able to buy beverages helps a little, but the portions tend to be so > small at hotel type venues that this isn't much of a solution. > > Either have fountains, coolers or big (~500ml) bottles of the stuff. The > meeting fees have increased by nearly 50% in 10 years and are around > double what's needed to cover costs. Water sec costs in the order of > $1/cubic meter (where I'm from at least) so I don't think this is too > much too ask for. _______________________________________________ 68ATTENDEES mailing list 68ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/68attendees
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