Re: [68ATTENDEES] Hilton Prague

"David T. Perkins" <> Thu, 29 March 2007 21:35 UTC

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Please consider people on a budget....

For Prague, I stayed at a small hotel within a 10 minute walk
that cost only US$ 40 per night. There were plenty of easily walkable
places to eat (and get beer) for a reasonable cost. I didn't have
any local transportation costs, other than a taxi to/from the
airport (better to be safe and on time than to save money
in a local where you don't know or speak the language!)
My air from San Francisco was about US$800. The IETF conference
fee was more than my food and lodging costs!
I found Prague quite interesting, and other than the
smoke, in a word fantastic.

I don't particularily like San Diego due to the high cost of
local lodging, and the distance to places to eat.

Of course if I was setting the local, I'd choose Cozumel
in November/December (it has good Internet connectivity,
and that date is out of the hurricane season, and still
during low rate season. Plus, there are lots of places
to eat, drink, and inexpensive places to stay.) The only
problem will be convincing your manager the trip is business
and not a junket.

Another place that should be a winner is Madrid.

/david t. perkins

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> Asia suggestions:
> - Tokyo/Yokohama area: many choices. Other parts of Japan would work
>  too, but I suppose it could be argued that they "add another hop"
>  for International travellers. Many flights to Tokyo, Osaka, or
>  Nagoya. Specifically, Pacifico Yokohama is well-known to many of
>  us as a fine facility.
> - Kuala Lumpur: Has a great convention center (probably more than one
>  but anyway). Has low-cost hotels which are really nice, is easy to
>  get to from most parts of the world, either directly or via
>  Singapore.
> - Singapore: Many fine hotels and convention facilities, probably more
>  expensive than KL, but certainly workable.
> - Taipei: TWNIC has hosted several APNIC meetings here and will host
>  their second APRICOT in Taipei in 2008. Again nice facilities and
>  a host (without having asked them) who is more than capable of doing
>  a meeting the size of the IETF. Big added bonus: If there is only
>  "one China" then meeting in Taipei means we meet in China with none
>  of the negotiations you've faced with the other China. How's that
>  for "sending a message" ? ;-)
> - Hong Kong: Same bonus as above, at least two convention centers
>  (assuming we need that), many flights to all of the world. I do
>  hear that the major venues are booked out many years in advance
>  however. Did I mention it's in China? :-)
> - Seoul: Been there, done that, but it worked pretty well. It's nice
>  to be in a place where LCD panels grow on trees... Could have chosen
>  a slightly warmer time of the year perhaps. Again many flight
>  connections.
> Ole
> Ole J. Jacobsen
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> Cisco Systems
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> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Fred Baker wrote:
>> On Mar 24, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> My vote is to make Prague the new Minneapolis.
>> while keeping the old minneapolis, and perhaps adding san diego to the list.
>> yes.
>> What site(s) would you suggest in Asia as a to-be-repeated site?
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