RE: [68ATTENDEES] Travel Fairness Doctrine

"Antoin Verschuren" <Antoin.Verschuren@sidn.nl> Mon, 26 March 2007 09:17 UTC

Return-path: <68attendees-bounces@ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVlK4-0005Vt-A1; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 05:17:04 -0400
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVlK2-0005Us-Nc for 68attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 05:17:02 -0400
Received: from gw.sidn.nl ([193.176.144.134]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HVlJx-0000a0-Jq for 68attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 05:17:02 -0400
Received: from gw.sidn.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sidn.nl (TUNIX/Firewall Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36D1C3B46A for <68attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:16:34 +0200 (CEST)
Received: by gw.sidn.nl (TUNIX/Firewall Mail Server) with ESMTP for <68attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:16:34 +0200 (CEST)
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: RE: [68ATTENDEES] Travel Fairness Doctrine
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:16:34 +0200
Message-ID: <B33086268D53A0429A3AA2774C83892CDC5B21@KAEVS1.SIDN.local>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: [68ATTENDEES] Travel Fairness Doctrine
Thread-Index: Acdu8Th0omC1f0JBSSmZuQMoyZdyewAk6evQ
From: Antoin Verschuren <Antoin.Verschuren@sidn.nl>
To: 68attendees@ietf.org
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d
X-BeenThere: 68attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Mailing list for IETF 68 attendees." <68attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/68attendees>, <mailto:68attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/68attendees>
List-Post: <mailto:68attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:68attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/68attendees>, <mailto:68attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: 68attendees-bounces@ietf.org

Andy Bierman wrote:
> 
> The level of de-humanization, indifference, mixed in with
> incompetence and economic pressures, has reached a new high,
> or rather a new low.  Unless you are very rich, the sir travel
> experience 
> is just something you have to endure to go to an IETF.
> (My carrier's employees seemed united in their quest to mess up at
> every step. I hope I get my luggage back someday.)
> 
> As much as I like having the IETF near Los Angeles often,
> it is clearly not fair to many other in the IETF, especially
> in Europe and Asia.

I aggree fully here.
I think it's a simple answer of "share the burden fair".
Do 3 different continents a year to give everyone an equal opportunity
to attend, and equal burden of getting there.

It might also help to decrease the number of ignorant mails on this
lists that sugest that culture outside North America is strange by
default.
It helps people from that area to remind that others might have the same
view about their own habbits and learn there is an outside world for
everyone that should be taken into considderation when cooperating in
something global as the IETF.

Antoin Verschuren
SIDN

_______________________________________________
68ATTENDEES mailing list
68ATTENDEES@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/68attendees