Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)

Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Sat, 24 March 2007 21:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [68ATTENDEES] Returning to Prague (was: Re: Hilton Prague)
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:47:28 +0100
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On Mar 24, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Aaron Stone wrote:
> I seems to me that a non-smoking lobby area should simply be one of  
> the many things that are negotiated with the conference venue.  
> There must already be negotiations on which and how many conference  
> rooms, hotel rooms, bringing in Internet access, and so on.
>
> So let's add one more: if the hotel is in a country that allows  
> smoking indoors, the hotel must arrange for a significant non- 
> smoking portion of the lobby to allow free movement of smoke- 
> sensitive participants from the front door to the registration to  
> the conference rooms.

I wonder if you are still in Prague, and if you are, the fact that  
the red "no smoking" signs in the lobby have all been replaced with  
green "smoking" signs?

What, specifically, is your complaint? It looks to me like this is  
exactly what happened. What John is complaining about is that there  
was an area that remained available to smokers.

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