Re: [6gip] 6G in 3GPP?
John Grant <j@ninetiles.com> Thu, 14 January 2021 17:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6gip] 6G in 3GPP?
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On 14/01/2021 16:30, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > > 3GPP is currently at mid-way with 5G. There will still be a number > of releases left for 5G to come. > > > This is wrong. > 5G is already here. Samsung had 5G phone in 2019. Apple iPhone 12 was > introduced in 2020 with 5G. > There are deployments going on worldwide. > > It seems you are confusing 3GPP Releases with 5G deployments. 5G came > with the first release that introduced 5G, I think it was Release 15. Release 15 was "5G phase 1" and concentrated on "New Radio". Later releases are (and were always planned to be) further phases of 5G, so 5G is not done yet. It is planned to have three kinds of service: (1) faster mobile broadband (2) IoT with huge numbers of very simple and low-powered devices (3) "ultra-reliable low latency" supporting applications such as robots in factories, automated vehicles, and remote surgery. There are also big changes to the architecture of the mobile operators' fixed networks, mostly in Release 16. The first "5G" services the mobile operators have rolled out are basically just faster mobile broadband using New Radio with a 4G core. -- John Grant Nine Tiles, Cambridge, England +44 1223 862599 and +44 1223 511455 http://www.ninetiles.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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