Re: [6gip] 6G

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 14 January 2021 11:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [6gip] 6G
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Le 14/01/2021 à 09:52, Lars Eggert a écrit :
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> Unless you claim that "6G" will be a radio LAN, I don't think these 
> assumptions are sensible.

I think 6G will stay separated from WiFi for a long time.  The spectrum
is separated in a fundamental way between 'licensed' and 'unlicensed';
the regulation at regulatory bodies, the fines to pay, the licenses to
pay are huge differences.

Even if 3G and 4G claimed to do some work on WiFi (there are many 3GPP
documents that claim to act on WiFi), these are still just allegations,
an dmaybe less about deployments.  5G might continue on these
allegations but the deployments will again be different.

6G might have a positive interest of not embarking on the WiFi paths,
and let it to the WiFi SDOs.

Alex

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> Lars
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