Re: [6gip] Side Meeting Closing Notes

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 11/03/2021 à 09:50, Lars Eggert a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> On 2021-3-10, at 1:46, David Lake <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> We cannot continue like this.  I’m afraid for me the tone of the 
>> conversation and the quality of the chairmanship was simply not 
>> acceptable.
> 
> I would like so strongly second this. In another email on this 
> thread, I already pointed to the IETF Note Well 
> (https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/) and explained that it
> applies to side meetings. It (also) says:
> 
> • As a participant or attendee, you agree to work respectfully with 
> other participants (...)

Inherently, I think that what appeared as disrespect was not really
disrespect.

I think that the person was on a very hurry to push eveyrone to focus on
the discussion slide (the 6G topics) rather than diverging on other
topics.  I think this is normal in early topic meetings to try to make
progress.

Also, it is true, that there was an apparent non-listening, or non
understanding, from the organizer.  But that has multiple causes which
are not his fault:
- the time was very short and the organizer had to react quickly.
- the way in which webex works (only one video displayed, lack of
   queueing and a mike attribution strategy), made participants think (I
   suspect) that they should reply to the organizer, whereas the
   organizer assumed that there should be discussion between
   participants, not between participants and organizer.

Also, it is true, that the end result of this appeared to be very bad to
contributors.  That situation is really not desirable.

> Several of us pointed out during the meeting that the way in which a 
> convener of the side meeting repeatedly talked over Marie-Jose 
> Montpetit when she tried to make a contribution was simply 
> unacceptable, even more so because male participants were not 
> subjected to the same behavior.

But, that amounts to sexism.  If that is the same feeling from several
people, then I think it should be addressed and not let go, action taken.

Alex

> 
> If I see other instances of such disrespectful behavior, I will work 
> towards getting this mailing list closed, and will discourage IETF 
> participants from attending any future side meetings.
> 
> Lars Eggert IETF Chair
> 
>