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Re: [6lowapp] HTTP and SIP

"zach@sensinode.com" <zach@sensinode.com> Sun, 11 October 2009 11:57 UTC

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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:39:57 -0700, Jonathan Hui <jhui@archrock.com> wrote:
> I'd be careful carrying the interoperability argument towards the  
> upper layers.  IP was designed to be the narrow waist.  Today, that  
> has evolved to UDP and TCP being the narrow waist [1].  We have far  
> more flexibility and opportunity at the application layer than we do  
> with TCP/UDP/IP and we should not be afraid to exploit that.  I do  
> support the argument for evaluating existing protocols/architectures,  
> but more because they are established, vetted, and widely understood,  
> less so because we actually want to utilize the existing technical  
> infrastructure that surrounds it.
> 
> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosenberg-internet-waist-hourglass

I totally agree. 

- Zach

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