Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up on 6lowapp.net
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Thu, 05 November 2009 16:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up on 6lowapp.net
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On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:06:51AM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote: > I have put a new version of the WG charter proposal on the wiki page at > http://6lowapp.net > = > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/6LowApp > (charter text is at the end of the page). Some feedback from a quick read of the charter text. -- I have not clue what this means: [...] For these benchmark cases, the payload will be based on interface profile specific XML documents compressed with EXI. Which benchmark cases is this text referring to? And why suddenly fix a certain encoding? -- I also do not understand the relationship of 4a) to 4). Since 4) talks specifically about HTTP REST, how can 4a talk about non HTTP REST protocols? I think 4) should say: 4) Specification how other protocols interface via a CoGII to CoAP. Separate specifications are envisioned zero or more of: SNMP, SMTP, SIP, and XMPP. [[Note: In the BOF it would be nice to figure out which of these are in the charter.]] -- I find the text on various commissioning methods rather strange for the charter of a working group. A working group charter item can be the production of a BCP on commissioning methods. The current text more looks like the initial draft of such a BCP, which does not belong into a charter. -- CoAP will use CMS for object security. [...lost of more detail...] This again looks like prescribing the solution - are we sure we do understand that CMS is the right choice? Are we sure we understand how CMS object security maps to other protocols mentioned under 4) and that CoAP is supposed to interface to? Do we understand the overhead of CMS security for say a simple meter reading? It might be better to have a charter item to work on the security aspects and it might be good to have security area advisors involved in this from the very beginning. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up on … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Kerry Lynn
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Arjun Roychowdhury
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Robert Cragie
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Benoit Claise
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Stuber, Michael
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Stuber, Michael
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Van Der Stok, Peter
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Benoit Claise
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Arjun Roychowdhury
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Shidan
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Next version of charter proposal up… Don Sturek