Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work
Jonathan Hui <jhui@archrock.com> Tue, 03 November 2009 04:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: > It's definitely debatable whether the approach that we've so far > followed (making links and lower-layer network technologies > implement stuff so that TCP/IP runs OK) is the One True Answer. Yes. > As we expand IP into environments that are very different from the > "normal" Internet, it's not fully clear (to me at least) whether > this approach will continue to be efficient. At the bar BOF in > Stockholm, I made a strawman proposal that for 6LOWAPPs, we might > instead start thinking about giving up on TCP and implementing a set > of end-to-end transport functions that apps can pick & choose from, > depending on their needs (reliability, uni/multicast, error > protection, loss protection/FEC, flow control, etc.) Those functions > may not need to be provided by a separate protocol with a header and > a layer in the stack; we might make them available as a common > library that apps link against, for example. Certainly sounds like an interesting idea and it would be a breath of fresh air not to be encumbered by TCP. So can we afford to sacrifice interoperability with TCP-based tools/infrastructure? There are clearly people on both sides and it's not clear to me how to come to closure except to recognize both sides for the time being. -- Jonathan Hui
- [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Cullen Jennings
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Lars Eggert
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Lars Eggert
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Lars Eggert
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Lars Eggert
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Cullen Jennings
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Lisa Dusseault
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Lloyd Wood
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Lloyd Wood
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowapp] Charter and transports Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Lars Eggert
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowapp] Where does TCP not work Pascal Thubert (pthubert)