Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE draft)
"Dijk, Esko" <esko.dijk@philips.com> Thu, 22 September 2011 14:58 UTC
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From: "Dijk, Esko" <esko.dijk@philips.com>
To: "minjun.xi@nokia.com" <minjun.xi@nokia.com>, "johanna.1.nieminen@nokia.com" <johanna.1.nieminen@nokia.com>, "cabo@tzi.org" <cabo@tzi.org>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:58:50 +0200
Thread-Topic: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE draft)
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Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE draft)
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Hello Minjun, I don't see an issue in IPv6 address configuration in 6LNs / section 3.2.1. Rather the question is how the 6LBR (phone) obtains IP prefix(es). I was curious whether a cellular operator would provide either 1) an IPv6 prefix (which the phone could further use for prefix distribution into the LoWPAN) 2) an IPv6 address (in which case the phone needs some other mechanism to obtain an IPv6 prefix - see below) Quote from draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd: The 6LBRs are responsible for managing the prefix(es) assigned to the 6LoWPAN, using manual configuration, DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation [RFC3633], or other mechanisms. In an isolated LoWPAN a ULA [RFC4193] prefix SHOULD be generated by the 6LBR. If more is known how this is going to work eg for the topology in Fig 5, we could consider to write it in the I-D. Esko -----Original Message----- From: minjun.xi@nokia.com [mailto:minjun.xi@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday 22 September 2011 15:53 To: Dijk, Esko; johanna.1.nieminen@nokia.com; cabo@tzi.org Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE draft) Esko, DHCPv6 for 6LoWPAN network. In the current version of I-D, there's one chapter (3.2.1) describing "IPv6 Address Configuration", which mentioned "Stateless autoconfiguration". Stateless autoconfiguration is defined in RFC4862, which is different from "stateful autoconfiguration" (aka DHCPv6). Compared with 6LoWPAN over BT-LE, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd has defined the mechanism to configure IPv6 addresses for 6LoWPAN over 802.15.4. In draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-17, there're several assumptions for 6lowpan-nd. It says "All nodes in the network have an EUI-64 interface identifier in order to do address auto-configuration and detect duplicate addresses." Also, draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd introduces the Address Registration mechanism and the optional DAD mechanism. DHCPv6 is not optimized for low-power and lossy networks including 802.15.4 and BT-LE. I think it is necessary to make the "IPv6 address configuration" for 6LoWPAN over BT-LE clear in the future revision. Thank you! -- Best Regards, Minjun, Xi Nokia Research Center On 9/19/11 9:54 PM, "ext Dijk, Esko" <esko.dijk@philips.com> wrote: >Dear BT-LE authors, all, > >I haven't done a detailed review but I have one technical >comment/question. The typical case in the I-D is a BT-LE mobile phone, >connected to the internet, acting as a 6LBR and distributing an IP prefix >to 6LNs. Is it the intention that an IP prefix for the 6LoWPAN can be >obtained by the phone via DHCPv6 ? If so would an ISP support this for a >phone connected to their 3G network? > >Obtaining an IP prefix by the 6LBR seems necessary to enable routing from >a host on the internet to a 6LN. > >regards, >Esko > > >Esko Dijk > >Philips Corporate Technologies, Research >High Tech Campus 34, Eindhoven, The Netherlands >esko.dijk@philips.com > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: 6lowpan-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:6lowpan-bounces@ietf.org] On >Behalf Of Carsten Bormann >Sent: Friday 9 September 2011 14:43 >To: 6lowpan@ietf.org >Subject: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE >draft) > >6LoWPANners, > >we are now looking at the third WG version (-02) of this draft. > >Are we ready to do a working-group last-call on this? > >-- if you see something major that needs to be done before this is ready, >please speak up now. > (If you have technical comments, or maybe some editorial suggestions, >these are also useful at this point, although there also will be time to >comment in the actual WGLC.) > >-- conversely, if you have reviewed the document and like it, please do >speak up (and please do say what you have specifically looked at). > >Of course, we don't want to go into a WGLC with glaring omissions (I >gather Appendix A is not really a necessary part of this spec), and we >also don't want to go into WGLC if the working group hasn't been able to >review the document or, worse, if nobody actually cares. > >Please respond to this message by Sep 16. > >Gruesse, Carsten > >_______________________________________________ >6lowpan mailing list >6lowpan@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan > >The information contained in this message may be confidential and legally >protected under applicable law. 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- [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE draft johanna.1.nieminen
- [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version of … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE d… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE d… johanna.1.nieminen
- Re: [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE d… Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version… Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE d… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version… minjun.xi
- Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version… Dijk, Esko
- Re: [6lowpan] Ready for WGLC? (Re: Latest version… minjun.xi
- Re: [6lowpan] Latest version of IPv6 over BT-LE d… johanna.1.nieminen