Re: [6lowpan] WG adoption of draft-patil-6lowpan-v6over-btle-01.txt

<Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com> Fri, 01 April 2011 11:15 UTC

Return-Path: <Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com>
X-Original-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 6lowpan@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3025D3A67FA for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 04:15:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -103.088
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.088 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.511, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5i3754fxH0Os for <6lowpan@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 04:15:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5DA3A67F3 for <6lowpan@ietf.org>; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from vaebh104.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh104.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.30]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id p31BGCLx016880; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:17:11 +0300
Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.8]) by vaebh104.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Apr 2011 14:17:00 +0300
Received: from 008-AM1MMR1-005.mgdnok.nokia.com (65.54.30.60) by NOK-AM1MHUB-04.mgdnok.nokia.com (65.54.30.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:17:00 +0200
Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-023.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.3.94]) by 008-AM1MMR1-005.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.60]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.002; Fri, 1 Apr 2011 13:16:59 +0200
From: Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com
To: alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com, cabo@tzi.org
Thread-Topic: [6lowpan] WG adoption of draft-patil-6lowpan-v6over-btle-01.txt
Thread-Index: AQHL8FQObVKPa1Q8B0etKyeYMvGmppRIqIYAgAAFuYD//7hhAA==
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:16:59 +0000
Message-ID: <C9BB1E4D.12A43%basavaraj.patil@nokia.com>
In-Reply-To: <4D95A9EF.2080406@gmail.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.101115
x-originating-ip: [130.129.83.234]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-ID: <46C3E10E2A2C364CA76AE2613CD2838B@nokia.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Apr 2011 11:17:00.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[52431070:01CBF05E]
X-Nokia-AV: Clean
Cc: 6lowpan@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6lowpan] WG adoption of draft-patil-6lowpan-v6over-btle-01.txt
X-BeenThere: 6lowpan@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Working group discussion for IPv6 over LowPan networks <6lowpan.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan>, <mailto:6lowpan-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/6lowpan>
List-Post: <mailto:6lowpan@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:6lowpan-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan>, <mailto:6lowpan-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:15:36 -0000

There is a world of difference between 802.15.4 and BT-LE.

On 4/1/11 5:33 AM, "ext Alexandru Petrescu" <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Le 01/04/2011 12:12, Carsten Bormann a écrit :
>>> It seems to me IMHO bt-le is just a new phy, but same mac, hence ip
>>> would not be affected.
>>
>> From the presentation, I had a different impression.
>>
>>> But of course, a document stating we do things over bt-le as
>>> usually as over bt, would not hurt.
>>
>> Actually, it is required, as RFC4944 and its updates only define
>> 6LoWPAN for IEEE 802.15.4. If two people took these documents and
>> tried to apply them to BT-LE, they wouldn't necessarily arrive at
>> interoperable specifications.
>
>To me IMHO bluetooth is to 802.15.4 what wifi is to 802.11 - a marketing
>name.  It seems sufficient to specify ipv6 over 802.15.4  and that would
>cover all variants of bluetooth.  There is no ipv6-over-802.11n, nor
>ipv6-over-wifilowpower, for example.
>
>I may be wrong though about bluetooth being mostly 802.15.4 rfc4944 and
>rfc2460.
>
>>> Is the WG re-opened?
>>
>> No, it is alive and well until such a time when it is actually being
>> closed. All that was said is that the Prague meeting will be the last
>> physical meeting of the WG. We want to close our unfinished business,
>> and a number of documents are based on discussions that went on at
>> least since Beijing, so if they fit our charter and we have energy to
>> work on them, there is no problem doing that.
>
>sounds like doing new work without physical meetings... ok...
>
>Alex
>
>>
>> Gruesse, Carsten
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>6lowpan mailing list
>6lowpan@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan