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Hi authors,

I may raise a clarification question before issuing WGLC for this draft.

In the past there was a section in the draft dealing with neighbor pollin=
g which seems to me beeing an important topic in terms of schedule consis=
tency.

In the latest version I don=27t see a mechanism which explains how a pare=
nt keeps its schedule clean after some children silently disappeared (e.g=
. batteries are gone). As per my understanding in such a case the negotia=
ted RX cell towards the child remains in the schedule forever right=3F

Previously this was handled by neighbor polling. Which required the paren=
t to send KA packets in a periodic manner to its childset. (This could be=
 identified by evaluation of the neighbor set where a negotiated RX cell =
was scheduled to)

What is the idea now how to deal with that issue=3F


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In the past there was a section in the draft dealing with neighbor pollin=
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In the latest version I don=27t see a mechanism which explains how a pare=
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. batteries are gone). As per my understanding in such a case the negotia=
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cht Freiburg i.Br. HRA 670225</span><br><span style=3D=22font-family: ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;=22>Sitz der Gesellschaft: Maulb=
urg</span><br><span style=3D=22font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 10pt;=22>Pers&ouml;nlich haftender Gesellschafter: Endress+Haus=
er Administration SE</span><br><span style=3D=22font-family: arial,helvet=
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sellschafters: Maulburg</span><br><span style=3D=22font-family: arial,hel=
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urg i.Br. HRB 717326</span><br><span style=3D=22font-family: arial,helvet=
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