Re: [6tisch] Adding CCA to the terminology draft

Thomas Watteyne <thomas.watteyne@inria.fr> Tue, 22 November 2016 18:46 UTC

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Thanks Maria Rita for agreeing to add the term. Can I ask you to do the
edit in the repo?

About last call, while I agree with the definitions in there, we MAY want
to remove some, or at least do a sanity check. Maria Rita, could I ask you
to go through the list and make some recommendations?

Thomas

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 2:25 PM, pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com <
pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com> wrote:

> I think that we need to remember that in some cases CCA is necessary for
> minimal, such as shared slots, but also when there are multiple instances
> of 6tisch being used by non-coordinated entities.
>
> Regardless, "In the TSCH mode, backoff is calculated in shared links, so
> the CSMA-CA aUnitBackoffPeriod  is not used.”  The CCA mode may be
> enabled for TSCH by the TSCH-MODE.request where the TschMode may be enabled
> and also the TschCca may be enabled
>
> Pat Kinney
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> On 22, Nov2016, at 5:57, Maria Rita PALATTELLA <
> maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu> wrote:
>
> Xavi,
>
> sure, we can add CCA among the terms.
>
> Pascal, about the last call for the terminology draft, I believe we can go
> for it.
>
> Maybe we only need to check first if there are new terms coming from the
> 6P and SF0 drafts (but I doubt, because we checked already last time), or
> from the latest security related drafts (draft-vucinic-6tisch-minimal-security,
> and draft-richardson-6tisch-dtsecurity-secure-join).
>
> @Malisa and Michael: do you see any term missing? you would like to add?
>
> Thank you
> Maria Rita
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) [pthubert@cisco.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2016 12:28 PM
> *To:* Xavi Vilajosana Guillen; Maria Rita PALATTELLA; tisch
> *Subject:* RE: [6tisch] Adding CCA to the terminology draft
>
> That would be good.
>
>
> Also: as discussed at the IETF meeting, we also need to trigger last call
> for the terminology draft, which will cause minimal to be held for
> publication otherwise.
>
>
> Maria-Rita, do you think we are ready for that?
>
>
> Take care,
>
>
> Pascal
>
>
> *From:* 6tisch [mailto:6tisch-bounces@ietf.org <6tisch-bounces@ietf.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Xavi Vilajosana Guillen
> *Sent:* mardi 22 novembre 2016 11:58
> *To:* Maria Rita PALATTELLA <maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu>; tisch <
> 6tisch@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [6tisch] Adding CCA to the terminology draft
>
>
> Dear Maria Rita,
>
>
> I would like to suggest adding the following definition to the terminology
> draft so we can point to it from minimal.
>
>
> CCA: Clear Channel Assessment. Mechanism defined in <xref
> target="IEEE802154-2015"/>, section 6.2.5.2. In a TSCH network, CCA can
> be used to detect other radio networks in vicinity. Nodes listen before
> sending to detect other ongoing transmissions. Because the network is
> synchronized, CCA cannot be used to detect colliding transmission within
> the same network.
>
>
> let me know if this is possible.
>
> thanks!
>
> X
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