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From: Tengfei Chang <tengfei.chang@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:29:13 +0200
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That's exactly what happened :-)

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM <ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp> wrote:

> Hi Tengfei,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your prompt reply.
>
>
>
> >It's calculated for all Tx cells, but since there is no auto tx cell whe=
n
> there is negotiated cell in schedule.
>
> >The num_transmissions for target is calculated for negotiated tx cells.
>
>
>
> I see. It make sense especially on the last sudden drop of
> target_num_transmissions in the figure.
>
> In this case, there is only one num_tx_cell. It hit 256 then drop to 128.
>
>
>
> Thank you again.
>
>
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> *From:* Tengfei Chang <tengfei.chang@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:05 PM
> *To:* paderna ryan ranario(=E3=83=91=E3=83=87=E3=83=AB=E3=83=8A =E3=83=A9=
=E3=83=A4=E3=83=B3 =E2=97=8B=EF=BC=B2=EF=BC=A4=EF=BC=A3=E2=96=A1=EF=BC=A3=
=EF=BC=AE=EF=BC=AC) <
> ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp>
> *Cc:* 6tisch <6tisch@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [6tisch] validating the downstream traffic adaptation in
> draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-06
>
>
>
> Hi Ryan,
>
>
>
> I replied inline:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 4:39 AM <ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tengfei,
>
>
>
> First of all, thank you showing us the experiment results about downstrea=
m
> traffic adaptation for MSF. It was very helpful.
>
>
>
> I would like to ask simple questions about it. About the
> "num_transmissions" in the figure, is it the number of ping transmitted? =
Or
> is it "NumTx" counter that counts the number of transmission attempts on
> the cell (Section 5.3 Handling Schedule Collisions)? Because of this, I
> divided my questions into two parts depending on the assumption.
>
>
>
> 1. If the "num_transmission" is ping:
>
> I assumed that "num_transmissions" is number of ping because of the label
> "1 packet/2seconds" which is rate of ping you are giving. However there a=
re
> sudden decrease of "num_transmission" in the target_num_transmissions
> figure.
>
>
>
> It's not this case.
>
>
>
> 2. If the "num_transmission" is "NumTx":
>
> It's more like this case, but "NumTx" is a counter for one cell.
> "num_transmission" here is like the sum of "NumTx" of all cells.
>
> In the experiment, I assumed that there is no parent switch because
> "NumTx" did not reset to 0 (section 5.3).
>
> Yes.
>
> I also assumed that the "MAXNUMTX"=3D256. That means "NumTx" will be divi=
ded
> by 2 if it hits 256.
>
> Yes.
>
> Based on the figure target_num_transmission, at first num_transmission hi=
t
> around 256 but did not decrease to 128 (instead it decreased around 150).
> There are also multiple sudden decrease when the num_transmission is less
> than or higher than 256. Is it because num_transmissions in this experime=
nt
> was calculated for all negotiated cells?
>
> It's calculated for all Tx cells, but since there is no auto tx cell when
> there is negotiated cell in schedule. The num_transmissions for target is
> calculated for negotiated tx cells.
>
>
>
> While the NumTx in Section 5.3 was calculated per cell?
>
>  num_transmissions =3D sum(NumTx per tx cell)
>
>
>
> I also have a follow up questions below:
>
> 3. About "NumCellsElapsed" in section 5.1 Adapting to Traffic. Can you
> explain about indication of TSCH state machine that increments the
> "NumCellsElapsed"?
>
> For each slot, there are several states such as checking the type of
> current slot, looking for packet to the target neighbor, load radio etc.
> But I see why you ask the question, probably TSCH state machine is
> implementation-specific term.  I will change it as following:
>
>
>
> NumCellsElapsed :  Counts the number of negotiated cells that have
>
>        elapsed since the counter was initialized.  This counter is
>
>        initialized at 0. When the current cell is declared as a
>
>        negotiated cell to the preferred parent, NumCellsElapsed is
>
>        incremented by exactly 1, regardless of whether the cell is
>
>        used to transmit/receive a frame.
>
>
>
> 4. Why the target node was chosen to be a neighbor of Dagroot out of 36
> nodes in the network?
>
> The goal of the figure is to show the behaviors of downstream traffic
> adaptation.
>
> Ping to a first hop node is sufficient to reach this goal.
>
> Chose a node with multiple hoop to dagroot  may introduce parent switch
> event along the route,
>
> which is normal, but it may make the figure not clear for showing the
> downstream adaptation behavior.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ryan Paderna
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tengfei Chang <tengfei.chang@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:58 PM
> *To:* 6tisch <6tisch@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [6tisch] validating the downstream traffic adaptation in
> draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-06
>
>
>
> Hello, All,
>
>
>
> As in the MSF draft version 06, we added the downstream traffic adaptatio=
n
> feature.
>
> here I want to share the implementation result of this feature with
> OpenWSN
>
> (I remember Pascal asked for this before as well :-) so here it is!)
>
>
>
> The setup:
>
> -------------
>
> I had run OpenWSN 6TiSCH implementation on OpenTestbed with 36 nodes
> deployed in our office building.
>
> After the network formed. I start to ping one nodes in the network,
> specifically using the command:
>
> ping  bbbb::12:4b00:14b5:b571 -w 2000 -t
>
> ( bbbb::12:4b00:14b5:b571  is the pinging target node's address)
>
> This allows to generate ping traffic at 1 request /2 seconds.
>
> The command stopped after around 25 mins.
>
>
>
> What to measure:
>
> -----------------------
>
> We measured the changes of the number of tx cells (num_tx_cells)
>
> from dagroot to the target node ( for downstream traffic)
>
> from target node to dagroot (for upstream traffic)
>
> The result is shown in the attached file.
>
>
>
> Explanation of the Result
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> You can check the following explanation in case you have questions after
> checking the attached result file..
>
>
>
> General information:
>
> The slotframe length is 101 and the slot duration is 20ms.
>
> So traffic load of 1 packet/2seconds requires roughly 1 cell per
> slotframe.
>
> The ideal status for MSF is to install 2 or 3 Tx cell for it, which
> results 50% or 33% cell usage.
>
>
>
> ( num_transmissions figures)
>
> The upper figures shows the number of transmission of dagroot (to target =
)
> and target (to dagroot),which helps to understand the changes of
> num_tx_cells.
>
> There are two reason why the number of transmission drops:
>
> the tx cell is deleted so the statistic of transmissions is gone
>
> the number transmission reaches to 256, it is then divided by 2 and
> changed to  128.
>
>
>
> ( target_num_transmissions figure)
>
> Expect the pinging traffic, the target has a default application traffic
> of 1packet/30 seconds.
>
>
>
> (dagroot_num_tx_cells figure)
>
> The dagroot at beginning only uses the auto_tx_cell for sending the ping
> request to target.
>
> When the MSF running on *TARGET *node detected the incoming traffic from
> dagroot exceeding the LIM_NUMCELLSUSED_HIGH,
>
> the *TARGET *node decided to install a Rx cell to dagroot  in its
> schedule (Tx cell on dagroot side)
>
>
>
> (target_num_tx_cells figure)
>
> Why is one  tx cells to dagroot deleted during the pinging?
>
> By checking the raw data of the experiment, we found that dagroot is in
> backoff status to the target, at the time to install its first Tx cell to
> target.
>
> The packet waiting to transmit out is the 6P response packet.
>
> The situation causes the incoming ping request packet is buffer'ed in the
> queue.
>
>
>
> As a consequence,  the ping response traffic decreases because of the les=
s
> incoming request packets,
>
> which temporally makes the num of cell used is lower than
> LIM_NUMCELLSUSED_LOW and delete one cell.
>
>
>
> After the Tx cell is installed on the dagroot side, the MSF starts to
> adapt the increased incoming traffic with a fluctuation (installed 3 Tx
> cells),
>
> but change to 2 Tx cells, which is ideal for 1packet/2seconds traffic loa=
d.
>
>
>
> I believe these figures validated the correctness of the downstream
> traffic adaptation in  draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-06
>
> Let us know if there is anything not clear for you.
>
>
>
> Tengfei
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chang Tengfei,
>
> Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That&#39;s exactly what happened :-)</div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 17, 2019=
 at 9:22 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp">ryanr=
anario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"JA">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">Hi Tengfei, <u></u>
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">Thank you for your prompt reply.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">&gt;It&#39;s calculated for all Tx ce=
lls, but since there is no auto tx cell when there is negotiated cell in sc=
hedule.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">&gt;The num_transmissions for target =
is calculated for negotiated tx cells.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">I see. It make sense especially on th=
e last sudden drop of target_num_transmissions in the figure.<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">In this case, there is only one num_t=
x_cell. It hit 256 then drop to 128.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">Thank you again.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=E6=B8=B8=
=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF">Ryan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:=E6=B8=B8=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Tengfei Chang &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:tengfei.chang@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tengfei.chang@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> paderna ryan ranario(</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=E3=
=83=91=E3=83=87=E3=83=AB=E3=83=8A</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=E3=83=A9=E3=83=A4=E3=83=B3</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> =
=E2=97=8B</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=EF=BC=B2=EF=BC=A4=EF=BC=A3<=
/span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">=E2=96=A1</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=EF=BC=A3=EF=BC=AE=
=EF=BC=AC</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif">)
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp" target=3D"_blank=
">ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 6tisch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6tisch@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
6tisch@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6tisch] validating the downstream traffic adaptation i=
n draft-ietf-6tisch-msf-06<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Ryan,<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I replied inline:<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 4:39 AM=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp" target=3D"_blank=
">ryanranario1.paderna@toshiba.co.jp</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">Hi Tengfei,
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">First of all, thank yo=
u showing us the experiment results about downstream traffic adaptation for=
 MSF. It was very helpful.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">I would like to ask si=
mple questions about it. About the &quot;num_transmissions&quot; in the fig=
ure, is it the number of ping transmitted? Or is it
 &quot;NumTx&quot; counter that counts the number of transmission attempts =
on the cell (Section 5.3 Handling Schedule Collisions)? Because of this, I =
divided my questions into two parts depending on the assumption.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">1. If the &quot;num_tr=
ansmission&quot; is ping:
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">I assumed that &quot;num_transmissions&quot; is number of pi=
ng because of the label &quot;1 packet/2seconds&quot; which
 is rate of ping you are giving. However there are sudden decrease of &quot=
;num_transmission&quot; in the target_num_transmissions figure.</span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It&#39;s not this case.=C2=A0<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">2. If the &quot;num_tr=
ansmission&quot; is &quot;NumTx&quot;:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It&#39;s more like this case, b=
ut &quot;NumTx&quot; is a counter for one cell. &quot;num_transmission&quot=
; here is like the sum of &quot;NumTx&quot; of all cells.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">In the experiment, I assumed that there is no parent switch =
because &quot;NumTx&quot; did not reset to 0 (section
 5.3). </span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Yes.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">I also assumed that the &quot;MAXNUMTX&quot;=3D256. That mea=
ns &quot;NumTx&quot; will be divided by 2 if it hits 256.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Yes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">Based on the figure target_num_transmission, at first num_tr=
ansmission hit around 256 but did not decrease
 to 128 (instead it decreased around 150). There are also multiple sudden d=
ecrease when the num_transmission is less than or higher than 256. Is it be=
cause num_transmissions in this experiment was calculated for all negotiate=
d cells?
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It&#39;s calculated for all Tx =
cells, but since there is no auto tx cell when there is negotiated cell in =
schedule. The num_transmissions for target is calculated for negotiated tx =
cells.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">While the NumTx in Section 5.3 was calculated per cell?</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0num_transmissions =3D sum=
(NumTx per tx cell)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">I also have a follow u=
p questions below:
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">3. About &quot;NumCellsElapsed&quot; in section 5.1 Adapting=
 to Traffic. Can you explain about indication of TSCH
 state machine that increments the &quot;NumCellsElapsed&quot;?</span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For each slot, there are severa=
l states such as checking the type of current slot, looking for packet to t=
he target neighbor, load radio etc.<br>
But I see why you ask the question, probably TSCH state machine is implemen=
tation-specific term.=C2=A0 I will change it as following:<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<pre style=3D"break-before:page"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;color:black">NumCellsElapsed :=C2=A0 Counts the number of negotiated cel=
ls that have<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 elapsed since the counter was initialized.=C2=A0 T=
his counter is<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 initialized at 0. When the current cell is declare=
d as a <u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"break-before:page"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0negotiated cell t=
o the preferred parent, NumCellsElapsed is <u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"break-before:page"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0incremented by ex=
actly 1, regardless of whether the cell is <u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"break-before:page"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0used to transmit/=
receive a frame.<u></u><u></u></span></pre>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">4. Why the target node was chosen to be a neighbor of Dagroo=
t out of 36 nodes in the network?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The goal of the figure is to sh=
ow the behaviors of downstream traffic adaptation.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ping to a first hop node is suf=
ficient to reach this goal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Chose a node with multiple hoop=
 to dagroot=C2=A0 may introduce parent switch event along the route,=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">which is normal, but it may mak=
e the figure not clear for showing the downstream adaptation behavior.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0mm 0mm 0mm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0mm">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">Thank you.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:inherit;word-spacing:0px"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
rgb(37,37,37)">Ryan Paderna
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:=E6=B8=B8=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:=E6=B8=B8=E3=82=B4=E3=82=B7=E3=83=83=E3=82=AF;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Tengfei
 Chang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tengfei.chang@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ten=
gfei.chang@gmail.com</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 6tisch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6tisch@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
6tisch@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [6tisch] validating the downstream traffic adaptation in dr=
aft-ietf-6tisch-msf-06</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hello, All,<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As in the MSF draft version 06,=
 we added the downstream traffic adaptation feature.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">here I want to share the implem=
entation result of this feature with OpenWSN=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(I remember Pascal asked for th=
is before as well :-) so here it is!)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The setup:<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-------------<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I had run OpenWSN 6TiSCH implem=
entation on OpenTestbed with 36 nodes deployed in our office building.=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">After the network formed. I sta=
rt to ping one nodes in the network, specifically using the command:=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:5pt 0mm 5pt 30pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">ping=C2=A0 bbbb::12:4b00:14b5:b=
571 -w 2000 -t<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">( bbbb::12:4b00:14b5:b571=C2=A0=
 is the pinging target node&#39;s address)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This allows to generate ping tr=
affic at 1 request /2 seconds.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The command stopped after aroun=
d 25 mins.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">What to measure:<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----------------------<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We measured the changes of the =
number of tx cells (num_tx_cells)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:5pt 0mm 5pt 30pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">from dagroot to the target node=
 ( for downstream traffic)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:5pt 0mm 5pt 30pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">from target node to dagroot (fo=
r upstream traffic)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The result is shown in the atta=
ched file.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Explanation of the Result<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-------------------------------=
---<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">You can check the following exp=
lanation in case you have questions after checking the attached result file=
..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">General information:<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The slotframe length is 101 and=
 the slot duration is 20ms.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">So traffic load of 1 packet/2se=
conds requires roughly 1 cell per slotframe.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The ideal status for MSF is to =
install 2 or 3 Tx cell for it, which results 50% or 33% cell usage.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">( num_transmissions figures)<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The upper figures shows the num=
ber of transmission of dagroot (to target ) and target (to dagroot),which h=
elps to understand the changes of num_tx_cells.=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></=
span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">There are two reason why the nu=
mber of transmission drops:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:5pt 0mm 5pt 30pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">the tx cell is deleted so the s=
tatistic of transmissions is gone<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:5pt 0mm 5pt 30pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">the number transmission reaches=
 to 256, it is then divided by 2 and changed to=C2=A0 128.<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">( target_num_transmissions figu=
re)=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Expect the pinging traffic, the=
 target has a default application traffic of 1packet/30 seconds.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(dagroot_num_tx_cells figure)<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The dagroot at beginning only u=
ses the auto_tx_cell for sending the ping request to target.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">When the MSF running on
<b>TARGET=C2=A0</b>node detected the incoming traffic from dagroot exceedin=
g the=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:black"=
>LIM_NUMCELLSUSED_HIGH,=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:b=
lack">the=C2=A0</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">TARGET=C2=A0</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US">node decided to install a Rx cell to dagroot=C2=A0 in its
 schedule (Tx cell on dagroot side)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">(target_num_tx_cells figure)<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Why is one=C2=A0 tx cells to da=
groot deleted during the pinging?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">By checking the raw data of the=
 experiment, we found that dagroot is in backoff status to the target, at t=
he time to install its first Tx cell to target.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The packet waiting to transmit =
out is the 6P response packet.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The situation causes the incomi=
ng ping request packet is buffer&#39;ed in the queue.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As a consequence,=C2=A0 the pin=
g response traffic decreases because of the less incoming request packets,<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">which temporally makes the num =
of cell used is lower than=C2=A0 LIM_NUMCELLSUSED_LOW and delete one cell.<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">After the Tx cell is installed =
on the dagroot side, the MSF starts to adapt the increased incoming traffic=
 with a fluctuation (installed 3 Tx cells),<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">but change to 2 Tx cells, which=
 is ideal for 1packet/2seconds traffic load.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I believe these figures validat=
ed the correctness of the downstream traffic adaptation in=C2=A0=C2=A0draft=
-ietf-6tisch-msf-06<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Let us know if there is anythin=
g not clear for you.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Tengfei<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">--
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(253,253,253)">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&=
quot;;color:black">Chang Tengfei,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:rgb(253,253,253)">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&=
quot;;color:black;background:white">Postdoctoral Research Engineer</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&qu=
ot;;color:black">, Inria</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br clear=3D"all">
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-- <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div>
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EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bl=
ack">Dr. Tengfei, Chang</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.5pt=
"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bl=
ack;background:white">Postdoctoral Research Engineer</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:blac=
k">,
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EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bl=
ack"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bl=
ack"><a href=3D"http://www.tcahng.org" target=3D"_blank">www.tcahng.org</a>=
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