Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in the new charter
"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Wed, 27 January 2016 19:39 UTC
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>, "6tisch@ietf.org" <6tisch@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in the new charter
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Hello Brian and Qin: We discussed that at the time of the first charter, using RFC 3444 as our reference; it is my understanding that we aimed the 6top interface document https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-interface at providing a Yang Data model to manage the 6top layer in a device. It is my understanding that some form of information model in natural language would be present in the 6top draft, but my reading of the 6top interface is that there is some degree of information model there too, that explains the data model. If so, is that a problem? Cheers, Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: 6tisch [mailto:6tisch-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Haberman > Sent: lundi 25 janvier 2016 14:11 > To: 6tisch@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in the new charter > > Hi Qin, > > On 1/22/16 3:30 PM, Qin Wang wrote: > > Dear all, In today's Webex meeting, we were talking about the feedback > > from Bonoit about the new Charter, see [6tisch] Benoit Claise's No > > Objection on charter-ietf-6tisch-01-00: (with COMMENT), and want to > > continue the discussion in the ML. The question is what is exactly we > > want to do with Yang model, and how to make the paragraph about Yang > > model in the new Charter more accurate. Any comments and suggestion is > > welcome. ThanksQin > > > > This issue needs to get resolved before I will release the charter for external > review. Benoit's point illustrated an issue in the charter where it is not clear > as to whether the WG is interested in an information model or a data > model. > > Regards, > Brian
- [6tisch] information model or data model in the n… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in t… Brian Haberman
- Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in t… Brian Haberman
- Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in t… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] information model or data model in t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)