[6tisch] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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[ Be ye not afraid - this should be easy to answer / address ]
The Privacy Considerations says:
"The use of a network ID may reveal information about the network."
Good point - but it also goes on to say: "The use of a SHA256 hash of the
DODAGID, rather than using the DODAGID (which is usually derived from the LLN
prefix) directly provides some privacy for the the addresses used within the
network, as the DODAGID is usually the IPv6 address of the root of the RPL

I don't know if this is an issue, but how much entropy is in a DODAGID? From
what I could find, the DODAGID is often just an IP address - and subnets are
not randomly distributed, nor are L2 addresses (inputs to address generation) -
if I know that many of the nodes come from vendor_A, and I know their L2 / MAC
range, can I enumerate this, and by extension the DODAGID, and so the hash?

I will happily admit that I haven't fully researched this / thought it through,
so "Nah, won't work" or "Yes, will work, but we did say 'provides some
privacy', not 'absolute privacy'" or all acceptable answers :-)


I found this document to be well written, and helpfully explained the
background, issue, etc. Thank you!

"Pledges which have not yet enrolled are unable to authenticate the beacons,
and will be forced to temporarily take the contents on faith. After enrollment,
a newly enrolled node will be able to return to the beacon and validate it."
Yes, this is true - a newly enrolled node will be able to do this -- but I
don't see a suggestion / requirement that they actually *do* so. I'm perfectly
capable of picking up my socks, but.... :-)

"Although However, even in this case, a" - typo / redundancy.

Please also see Qin Wu's Opsdir review
which has some useful questions / nits.