Re: [6tisch] xxx-bootstrap
Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr> Wed, 30 November 2016 09:26 UTC
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Hello Peter, My understanding of the IETF 97 meeting outcome is that Phase 1 solution will be anima-compatible i.e., it will provide zero-touch bootstrapping with manufacturer-installed certificate as the start state and locally relevant credential as the end state. At the moment, I believe that Michael’s proposal for Phase 1 is quite 6tisch agnostic and it can be used in other scenarios. However, the end state of Phase 2 are 6tisch-specific key(s) (cf. minimal draft) and temporary network identifiers that we tackle in the minimal-security draft. This builds upon existing work in 6tisch and will be needed no matter what common bootstrapping approach is used. Mališa > On 30 Nov 2016, at 09:06, peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Hi 6tisch bootstrap followers, > > Curently, we live in a confusing world wih many bootstrap proposals. > They all seem to have in common; a joining node, an assistant, a central authority, and Michael Richardson. > While each bootstrap proposal seems to have a different naming history. > > Joking apart, I like to plead for a commmon bootstrap approach in 6tisch, and anima to share parts of the bootstrap protocols. > I suspect that the discovery and the push- or pull start will be technology and context dependent. > My concern is with the number of protocols that the central authority has to support. > When there are too many bootstrap approaches, we may end up with as many protocol converters as there are bootstrap protocols. > > The anima bootstrap team has recognized the importance of low resource devices by supporting the use of coap. > The drafts "EST over coaps" demonstrate that the support of two protocols (coap and http based) in the cental authority is realistic. > > My plea is that we find a common protocol that replaces EST for the coap nodes. > > I understand that after the bad experience with CoMI, the 6tisch people do not want to be dalayed again by waiting for a common approach. > Nevertheless, I think it is worthwhile to explore this avenue. > > Any comments? > > Peter > > -- > Peter van der Stok > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch mailing list > 6tisch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch
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