Re: [6tsch] 1c "Why is this a problem? " BoF slides

Alfredo,

Thank you for clarifying. But, I'm still confused. Maybe I missed
something. Can you tell me what you mean by "competing stds"?

Thanks!
Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Alfredo Grieco <alfredo.grieco@gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

> Qin,
>
> I was saying the opposite: 6top goes on top.
>
> There was a nice picture shown by Pascal in one of our weekly call several
> weeks ago.
>
> Of course, the point you raise about ipv6 taking advantage from tsch is ok.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alfredo
>
> On Friday, July 19, 2013, Qin Wang wrote:
>
>> Hi Alfredo,
>>
>> I don't think  WirelessHart and ISA100.11a can be added on top of 6top.
>> The reasons are:
>>
>> (1) They have their own and different protocol stacks.
>> (2) They use Timeslotted channel hopping technology, but not
>> IEEE802.15.4e TSCH.
>>
>> So, according to my understanding, the problem is how IPv6 protocol stack
>> can take advantage of TSCH, which has been proven good and standardized by
>> IEEE.
>>
>> Thought?
>> Qin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Alfredo Grieco <alfredo.grieco@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Qin,
>>>
>>> As far as I remember, it could be also possible to embrace other
>>> technologies by adding on top of them 6top. No need to replace but include
>>> other technologies.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Alfredo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 19, 2013, Qin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Thomas and All,
>>>>
>>>> The first item of problems in the slide is:
>>>>
>>>>       Customer dissatisfaction with competing stds
>>>>
>>>>       -> no device interop, double opex
>>>>
>>>>       -> lack of common network management
>>>>
>>>> What does "competing stds" refer to? Referring to existing standards
>>>> like WirelessHart, ISA100.11a, or something else? From the statement, it
>>>> may be derived that 6TSCH WG wants to create a common standard to replace
>>>> the competing standards. It is not our objective, right?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I misunderstand something. Please point out.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Qin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Thomas Watteyne <
>>>> watteyne@eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, I pushed the 1c "Why is this a problem? " BoF slides we modified
>>>>> live during the webex onto the repo. You'll find the latest version at
>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/6tsch/meetings/src/master/130730_ietf-87_berlin
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>