Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and track computation with PCE
"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Tue, 23 July 2013 12:22 UTC
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Hello Xavi: Please let me know how you think the scope was narrowed. The (2) is a Oups, what about: " Produce requirements and an overall architecture for "6TSCH centralized routes and tracks management" describing the mechanism by which an external Path Computation Element (PCE) can communicate with devices in a 6TSCH network in order to maintain routing and forwarding states. In detail, the WG will consider operations (1) by the device routing layer for (i) sending topological information and routing metrics to the PCE, and (ii) getting on-demand routing information; and (2) by the device 6top sublayer for (i) exporting neighboring and link quality statistics to the PCE and (ii) requesting to (re)compute and install a track that meets explicit flow requirements. " Cheers, Pascal From: Xavier Vilajosana Guillen [mailto:xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu] Sent: mardi 23 juillet 2013 12:43 To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) Cc: Raghuram Sudhaakar (rsudhaak); maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu; Thomas Watteyne; 6tsch@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and track computation with PCE Hi Pascal, you narrowed the text so it is more focused now, however we have to be very sure to do not skip any aspect. Besides, at the end of the new text: Produce requirements and an overall architecture for "6TSCH centralized routes and tracks management" describing the mechanism by which an external Path Computation Element (PCE) can communicate with devices in a 6TSCH network in order to maintain routing and forwarding states. In detail, the WG will consider operations (1) by the device routing layer for (i) sending topological information and routing metrics to the PCE, and (ii) getting on-demand routing information; and (2) by the device 6top sublayer for exporting neighboring and link quality statistics to the PCE and (2) requesting to (re)compute and install a track that meets explicit flow requirements. the second (2) confuses me.Is it referring to the previous (2) item? "PCE and (2) requesting " X On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com<mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote: Hello Raghu and all: About item 2 6TSCH Centralized Management: Since we wrote the charter a few months ago we have been digging and it appears that we are probably not ready for going standard track right away with a 6TSCH document. - In one hand, we understand better that the PCE is the component we need for both centralized route AND track computation. - OTOH, we realized that PCEP only covers a limited portion of the required standard work and we realize that we need to dig deeper in what needs to be done, in particular to locate the PCE(s), export topology and metrics to the PCE, and then install routes and tracks from the PCE. We also understand that some of that work belongs to the PCE working group though it is unclear exactly how much that is. Right now the charter has this: 2. Produce "6TSCH centralized management" to define the mechanism by which an external Path Computation Element can communicate with the 6top protocol layer of the different nodes in the network (1) to modify their TSCH schedule and (2) to gather link quality statistics and data flow requirements. The WG will initially look at PCEP and CoAP. Depending on the applicability of PCEP, this document will be targeted to proposed standard. In the light of our studies, I'd suggest this: 2. Produce requirements and an overall architecture for "6TSCH centralized routes and tracks management" describing the mechanism by which an external Path Computation Element (PCE) can communicate with devices in a 6TSCH network in order to maintain routing and forwarding states. In detail, the WG will consider operations (1) by the device routing layer for (i) sending topological information and routing metrics to the PCE, and (ii) getting on-demand routing information; and (2) by the device 6top sublayer for exporting neighboring and link quality statistics to the PCE and (2) requesting to (re)compute and install a track that meets explicit flow requirements. What do you guys think? Pascal From: 6tsch-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:6tsch-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:6tsch-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:6tsch-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Raghuram Sudhaakar (rsudhaak) Sent: lundi 22 juillet 2013 07:25 To: 6tsch@ietf.org<mailto:6tsch@ietf.org> Subject: [6tsch] slides for work items All, Attached are the slides for the work items. Please provide your comments. Specifically, please provide feedback on whether we must have the security framework as a work item. -raghuram _______________________________________________ 6tsch mailing list 6tsch@ietf.org<mailto:6tsch@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tsch
- [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and track … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Xavier Vilajosana Guillen
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Maria Rita PALATTELLA
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and track … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Maria Rita PALATTELLA
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Raghuram Sudhaakar (rsudhaak)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Michael Richardson
- Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and tr… Thomas Watteyne