Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH
Thomas Watteyne <watteyne@eecs.berkeley.edu> Wed, 03 July 2013 14:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH
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If we decide to change the name of 6tus, I would argue that there is no need to keep the word "sixtus" in the acronym, since we are replacing it. Thomas On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Raghuram Sudhaakar (rsudhaak) < rsudhaak@cisco.com> wrote: > I was wondering the same as Maria Rita. > > I suggest retaining 6TSCH (pronounced as Sixtus). > > Or > > 6TS – 6 TSCH Scheduling. IMO layer is obvious and 3 syllables make > remembering and saying it a lot easier. It avoids the ambiguity about > management. > > -raghuram > > From: Maria Rita PALATTELLA <maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu> > Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:22 PM > To: Qin Wang <qinwang@berkeley.edu>, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" < > pthubert@cisco.com> > Cc: "6tsch@ietf.org" <6tsch@ietf.org>, "xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu" < > xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu> > > Subject: Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH > > I do agree with Qin that 6tus does more than track operation... > therefore, I would go for > --Sixtus TSCH Operation Layer -- > > but I have a minor concern. Shouldn't we remove TSCH? because Sixtus ( = > 6TSCH) already includes it. What do you think about? > > Maria Rita > ------------------------------ > *From:* 6tsch-bounces@ietf.org [6tsch-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Qin > Wang [qinwang@berkeley.edu] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 02, 2013 5:03 PM > *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > *Cc:* 6tsch@ietf.org; xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu > *Subject:* Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH > > 6TOP is good, but I prefer that it stands for Sixtus TSCH Operation > Layer, because "Sixtus Track Operation Layer" is a little bit narrower > than the function of this sub-layer. > > Qin > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < > pthubert@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Hello Xavi:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I love the TOp. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Management, OTOH, is both a bit misleading (people expect management >> console, CNM type of stuff) and a bit incomplete (missing the forwarding >> layer). **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Cheers,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Pascal**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Xavier Vilajosana Guillen [mailto:xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu] >> *Sent:* mardi 2 juillet 2013 15:36 >> *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) >> *Cc:* 6tsch@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH**** >> >> ** ** >> >> what about >> >> 6TMAN (Sixtus TSCH Management layer) >> 6TOP (Sixtus Track Operation Layer or Sixtus TSCH Operation Layer) >> MTSCH (Management TSCH sub layer) >> 6SUB (Sixtus SubLayer) >> >> just ideas! >> X**** >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) < >> pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:**** >> >> Dear all:**** >> >> **** >> >> The funniest thing I got this far is 6TSCHNTSSL, pronounced as “60 >> schnitzel” (for 6TSCH TimeSlotted Sub-Layer).**** >> >> But seriously we need to fix this. I was thinking that the key words I’d >> like to see there are:**** >> >> -Cell (allocation and dispatching)**** >> >> -Track (switching sublayer)**** >> >> **** >> >> So maybe 6CATS? **** >> >> **** >> >> Pascal**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:*6tsch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:6tsch-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Pascal Thubert (pthubert) >> *Sent:* mardi 25 juin 2013 17:35 >> *To:* 6tsch@ietf.org >> *Subject:* [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH**** >> >> **** >> >> Hello Maria-Rita:**** >> >> **** >> >> I think we can easily beat a world record of the most ugly name. For >> instance try pronouncing this: 6TSCHTSSL (for TimeSlotted Sub-Layer).*** >> * >> >> **** >> >> We need advice from the list:**** >> >> **** >> >> 1) what do you think of the definition below for 6TSCH (I’m perfectly >> happy with ità)**** >> >> 2) Should we rename 6TUS to avoid confusion with 6TSCH that pronounces >> sixtus already? If so, proposal?**** >> >> **** >> >> Cheers,**** >> >> **** >> >> Pascal**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* Maria Rita PALATTELLA [mailto:maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu<maria-rita.palattella@uni.lu>] >> >> *Sent:* mardi 25 juin 2013 11:08 >> *To:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert); xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu; >> yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp >> *Cc:* watteyne@eecs.berkeley.edu >> *Subject:* RE: [6tsch] draft-ohba-6tsch-security-00**** >> >> **** >> >> Hello Pascal,**** >> >> I do agree that 6TSCH is not well defined in the terminology draft. Sorry >> for that. For sure, we need to spell out the acronym. According to what >> you are suggesting, and what we had before, we may update it as follows:* >> *** >> >> **** >> >> *6TSCH: IPv6 over Time Slotted Channel Hopping. It defines a set of IETF >> sublayers and protocols (for setting up a schedule with a centralized or >> distributed approach, managing the resource allocation, etc.), as well as >> the architecture to bind them together, for use in IPv6 TSCH based >> networks.***** >> >> **** >> >> I also agree on the confusion that comes from having 6TSCH = SIXTUS and >> 6TUS adaptation layer. But I am worried it is a bit late for >> changing…somehow people got already familiar with this terms…unless, we >> agree to have only 6TSCH, and call 6TUS 6TSCH adaptation layer. What do you >> think? Maybe it is even worst J**** >> >> **** >> >> Maria Rita**** >> >> **** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 6tsch mailing list >> 6tsch@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tsch**** >> >> ** ** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 6tsch mailing list >> 6tsch@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tsch >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 6tsch mailing list > 6tsch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tsch > >
- [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Qin Wang
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Xavier Vilajosana Guillen
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Maria Rita PALATTELLA
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Raghuram Sudhaakar (rsudhaak)
- Re: [6tsch] 6TUS vs. 6TSCH Thomas Watteyne