Re: [6tsch] BoF Agenda & presenters

Thomas Watteyne <watteyne@eecs.berkeley.edu> Fri, 05 July 2013 22:19 UTC

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Pascal,
Makes absolute sense, thanks for the clarification.
Thomas


On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Pascal Thubert <pascal.thubert@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes and more:
>
> Wihart and isa100 demonstrate that we can do deterministic wireless.
> Proprietary RPL variations scale to the multiple 1000s.
>  And there are at least 3 instances of RPL over TSCH that were developped
> in parallel.
> Putting it all together is technically feasible. If all parties agree on
> mutual benefits 6tsch will roll 😊
>
> Pascal
>
> Le 5 juil. 2013 à 21:19, Thomas Watteyne <watteyne@eecs.berkeley.edu> a
> écrit :
>
> Pascal,
>
> Clarifying question:
>
>    1. background and introduction (existing work demonstrates
>    feasibility) 5m
>
> What do you mean by "existing work"? Is it synonymous to "companies are
> selling networks that use IEEE802.15.4e, so it really does work"?
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Xavier Vilajosana Guillen <
> xvilajosana@eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> I can do 1.b:  what is missing? (mostly the cement as opposed to the
>> building blocks)  15mn
>>
>> and if nobody does 2.a I can do it as well but I prefer that if there is
>> someone else interested just goes ahead.
>>
>> let me know if this is ok!
>> X
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <
>> pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Dear ML members: ****
>>>
>>> Now is the time when we need every good will and skill on board for a
>>> successful BoF. Our objective: convince the audience that there is
>>> important work to be done that does not belong to an existing group and
>>> that we’ll have in this new group the people to handle the work in a
>>> reasonable time frame.****
>>>
>>> We need to demonstrate:****
>>>
>>> - our skill. We as a group understand and have experience on all aspects
>>> of the technology.****
>>>
>>> - our control of the problem. No boiling the ocean, reinventing the
>>> wheel, blah etc…****
>>>
>>> The role of the speakers at the BoF will be critical. During the call
>>> today we have isolated 9 items that we need to cover in Berlin. Now we are
>>> calling for presenters for each of these items.****
>>>
>>> The presenter will own a thread on his topic(s) to discuss the argument
>>> he will make at the BoF. No worries, we will have the next 2 calls for
>>> rehearsals. ****
>>>
>>> Please respond to this mail with a short summary of what you are willing
>>> to take like, e.g.****
>>>
>>> Thomas Watteyne: 1.d, 2.d****
>>>
>>> or****
>>>
>>> Pascal Thubert: 2.e****
>>>
>>> Based on the following list of topics:****
>>>
>>> **1.      **problem statement [30min] ****
>>>
>>>     1. what is IEEE802.15.4e TSCH? (a key to deterministism and
>>>       scalability)    10mn****
>>>       2. what is missing? (mostly the cement as opposed to the building
>>>       blocks)  15mn****
>>>       3. Why is this a problem? (multiple proprietary solutions,
>>>       costly, limited scope) 3mn****
>>>       4. Status of 6TSCH group  (drafts, ML audience, calls, tracking
>>>       with BB …)  2mn ****
>>>
>>>  ** **
>>>
>>>    1. discussion of the charter [30min] ****
>>>
>>>
>>>     1. background and introduction (existing work demonstrates
>>>       feasibility) 5mn****
>>>       2. description of WG (we have participants skilled in the
>>>       art)                   5mn****
>>>       3. work items (we reuse as much as we can from existing IETF
>>>       work)    10mn****
>>>       4. non-milestone work items (we demonstrate our will to coexist
>>>       within regulations) 2mn****
>>>       5. external work to other WG (6MAN, PCE, ROLL?)  3mn ****
>>>
>>>  Thanks a bunch!!!****
>>>
>>> Pascal****
>>>
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