Re: [6tsch] work item 2: centralized route and track computation with PCE

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Tue, 23 July 2013 12:59 UTC

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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Qin Wang <qinwang@berkeley.edu>
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Hello Qin:

Please see inline:

What I read from the new paragraph is that the task will result in two sets of operations, i.e. (1) and (2) in the paragraph, one should be implemented in routing layer, and another should be implemented in 6top sublayer. I think the operations needed are almost there. But, the problem is 6TSCH only focus on 6top sublayer, and can not require specific function in routing layer, correct?

[] I do not think so, Qin. The draft charter says:
"
The Working Group will focus only on enabling IPv6 over the TSCH mode of the
IEEE802.15.4e standard although the actual PHY layer is not constrained to be
IEEE802.15.4 in the 2.4GHz band.
"
We 6TSCH has to provide all that is necessary for IPv6 over TSCH. 6top is an important component, probably the only new component, but it is not all there is...

Cheers,
Pascal
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com<mailto:pthubert@cisco.com>> wrote:
Hello Raghu and all:

About item 2 6TSCH Centralized Management:

Since we wrote the charter a few months ago we have been digging and it appears that we are probably not ready for going standard track right away with a 6TSCH document.
- In one hand, we understand better that the PCE is the component we need for both centralized route AND track computation.
- OTOH, we realized that PCEP only covers a limited portion of the required standard work and we realize that we need to dig deeper in what needs to be done, in particular to locate the PCE(s), export topology and metrics to the PCE, and then install routes and tracks from the PCE.  We also understand that some of that work belongs to the PCE working group though it is unclear exactly how much that is.

Right now the charter has this:

2. Produce "6TSCH centralized management" to define the mechanism by which an
external Path Computation Element can communicate with the 6top protocol layer
of the different nodes in the network (1) to modify their TSCH schedule and
(2) to gather link quality statistics and data flow requirements.  The WG will
initially look at PCEP and CoAP.
Depending on the applicability of PCEP, this document will be targeted to
proposed standard.

In the light of our studies, I'd suggest this:
2. Produce requirements and an overall architecture for  "6TSCH centralized routes and tracks management"
describing the mechanism by which an external Path Computation Element (PCE) can communicate with
devices in a 6TSCH network in order to maintain routing and forwarding states. In detail, the WG will
consider operations (1) by the device routing layer for (i) sending topological information and routing
metrics to the PCE, and (ii) getting on-demand routing information; and (2) by the device 6top sublayer
for exporting neighboring and link quality statistics to the PCE and (2) requesting to (re)compute and
install a track that meets explicit flow requirements.

What do you guys think?


Pascal

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Subject: [6tsch] slides for work items

All,
Attached are the slides for the work items. Please provide your comments.

Specifically, please provide feedback on whether we must have the security framework as a work item.

-raghuram

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