IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [71attendees] IPv6 Jabber Identity server anyone?

Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@netnod.se> Wed, 12 March 2008 15:25 UTC

Return-Path: <71attendees-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-71attendees-archive@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-71attendees-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01EB28C7E5; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -99.767
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.767 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4SUrBWEuxe0n; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1282328C71B; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: 71attendees@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 71attendees@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D39528C74D for <71attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:05 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t36Z0TxesJ6A for <71attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:03 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from defiant.autonomica.se (mail.autonomica.se [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:3::105]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7578D28C6C0 for <71attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:21d:4fff:fefc:b8f3] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:21d:4fff:fefc:b8f3]) by defiant.autonomica.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EBE6D18D3AC; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:22:41 +0100 (CET)
Message-Id: <99CD43C6-CB28-4D9A-AA2B-F702726EB481@netnod.se>
From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@netnod.se>
To: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
In-Reply-To: <2788466ED3E31C418E9ACC5C3166155708508F@mou1wnexmb09.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:22:40 +0100
References: <2788466ED3E31C418E9ACC5C3166155708508D@mou1wnexmb09.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <430F5C13-8F68-495B-99EE-99026C0E8D59@viagenie.ca> <2788466ED3E31C418E9ACC5C3166155708508F@mou1wnexmb09.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2)
Cc: 71attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [71attendees] IPv6 Jabber Identity server anyone?
X-BeenThere: 71attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion list for IETF Meeting 71 attendees <71attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/71attendees>, <mailto:71attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:71attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:71attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/71attendees>, <mailto:71attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: 71attendees-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: 71attendees-bounces@ietf.org

On 11 mar 2008, at 21.30, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:

> The objective here is to determine the functionality available to a  
> user on an IPv6 only connection.
>
> If the functionality is that I can only reach IPv6 hosts then I  
> might as well use IPv8. The deployment strategy is going to fail.  
> There is no incentive to deploy IPv6 hosts until there is a network  
> of IPv6 clients and vice-versa.
>
> So I would say that we have an important result, the current plan is  
> unworkable.
>
>
> I am not giving up my IPv4 address until there is no Internet  
> resource that I cannot reach via IPv6.
>
>
> The dual stack scenario works for the end user but does nothing to  
> solve the problem of depleting IPv4 space unless the IPv4 is behind  
> a NAT.
>

Which is why we had NAT-PT and why work is going on in v6ops to create  
requirements for a "better" translation mechanism to allow co- 
existance in a transition.

- kurtis -
_______________________________________________
71attendees mailing list
71attendees@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/71attendees

v2.2.1 | Report a Bug | By Email