Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person
Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com> Thu, 07 August 2008 16:44 UTC
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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com>
To: Mehmet Ersue <m_ersue@yahoo.de>, "72attendees@ietf.org" <72attendees@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:20:54 -0700
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As RFC 4846 states: > [...] it is important to > remember that the RFC Editor function predates the creation of the > IETF. As of the time of this writing, the RFC Series goes back 38 > years [RFC2555], while the IETF is celebrating its 21st anniversary. > All of the documents that were published before the IETF was created, > and for some years thereafter, would be considered Independent > Submissions today. As the IETF evolved, the Internet Architecture > Board (IAB) and then the IETF itself chose to publish IETF documents > as RFCs while fully understanding that the RFC Editor function was an > independent publication mechanism. Other decisions were possible: > e.g., the IETF could have decided to create its own publication > series. It was felt that there was considerable value in continuing > to publish the IETF work in the same series as the one used to > publish the basic protocols for the Internet. Another interesting data point is that besides the RFC series, there's also the IEN series (ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/ien/ien-index.html) Within this series is the proceedings of the "Internet Meetings" (1977-1981) which predate the IETF but were still about TCP/IP. The first(?) Internet Meeting proceedings are in IEN 3 and the list of attendees includes both Steve Crocker and Vint Cerf. The earliest IEN by a still-active IETF'er is, I think, IEN 5 by Vint. -Dave > From: 72attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:72attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mehmet Ersue > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:17 AM > To: 72attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person > > What about Steve Crocker? > He attends IETF meetings but I'm not sure whether he was in this meeting. > > I assume the IETF history starts with RFC 1: > > Network Working Group Steve Crocker > Request for Comments: 1 UCLA > 7 April 1969 > Mehmet > > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Pete Resnick [mailto:presnick@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:18 AM > To: Scott Brim > Cc: Vint Cerf; Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Muenich); > 72attendees@ietf.org; Dave Crocker > Subject: Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person > > On 7/31/08 at 10:29 PM +0100, Scott Brim wrote: > > >On 7/31/08 10:01 PM, Vint Cerf allegedly wrote: > >>perhaps although IETF as a particular entity would have been > >>established about 1983 by Barry Leiner (RIP). Mike Corrigan ran > >>that but Phill Gross had the operational responsibility. > >>Of course, Phill hasn't attended in a while I think. Bob Braden may > >>well be the most senior continuous attendee. > > > >I'm pretty sure Mike St Johns holds the record for number of > >meetings attended. > > Of people on the attendance list of IETF 1 in 1986 > <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/prior29/IETF01.pdf>, it appears to > intersect the current IETF list in 3 places: > > Ross Callon > Mike St. Johns > Lixia Zhang > > I have no intention of trying to establish the chronological age of > members of that particular list. :-) > > pr > -- > Pete Resnick <http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> > Qualcomm Incorporated - Direct phone: (858)651-4478, Fax: > (858)651-1102 > ________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang. _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Muenich)
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Lloyd Wood
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Scott Brim
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Tom Taylor
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Pete Resnick
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Michael StJohns
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Scott Brim
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Thaler