Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was: Re: Clarifying Host Responsibilities )

"Mary Barnes" <mary.barnes@nortel.com> Mon, 11 August 2008 17:48 UTC

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To: "Dale Worley" <dworley@pingtel.com>, <72attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was: Re: Clarifying Host Responsibilities )
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I travel a lot and use hotels that often offer "free in-room Internet"
and have never encountered the problems I did on Friday nite after the
IETF meeting.  My expectation is that the price for "free Internet" is
really built into the price of the room - i.e., there's nothing that's
really "free".   However, we do have to consider the location, as I
found that Internet is not nearly as widely available in much of
Ireland, including in Dublin hotels.  I stayed in a supposed "business
class" hotel in Dublin for two days prior to the meeting and had no
Internet access except for the pay 10 euros per minute console in the
lobby - those same sorts of consoles were the Internet source at the
Cork airport, as well. 

Regards,
Mary. 

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Subject: Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was: Re:
Clarifying Host Responsibilities )

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 07:55 -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> (ii) when the IAOC advertises free
> Internet access in rooms, there is some limited IETF obligation to 
> understand that "Internet access" implies connections that work, 
> deliver addresses, route packets, etc., not just plug in and to 
> provide an interface with the hotel about that...  or to say "well, 
> there are Internet connections in the rooms, and they
> are free, but maybe they won't work".   

I've always taken "free in-room Internet" to mean "you get the hotel's
in-room Internet service, for free" which implies "you may have a hard
time getting it to work".  But perhaps that should be stated more
clearly.

Dale


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