Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

"GOLDMAN, STUART O \(STUART\)" <sgoldman@alcatel-lucent.com> Mon, 28 July 2008 22:04 UTC

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From: 72attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:72attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
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Subject: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

Everybody complaining about the guest room network,

<The IAOC Chair hat on>

I have a bit of sentiment that people don't understand the guest room
network is not the primary responsibility of the host. It is extra what we
get if the host (this time Alcatel-Lucent) decides to provide it for us for
free. We have network requirements for hosts at
http://iaoc.ietf.org/network_requirements.html for everybody to check.

I have a bit of sentiment that the people complaining about the guest room
network have a hard time appreciating what it means to get free access to
the Internet from the hotel rooms and what it costs. Usually getting
"ownership" of the hotel network is not an option, but never it is a
priority. The priority is to get the meeting, production network to work.
That is what the host is responsible for. If you have problems with that,
you can submit a ticket at noc@ietf.org.

In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of crowd. They are
made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. Not for the
hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to something they
wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean upgrading the
whole network - not an option.

So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have given us
extra!

I would like to thank our host for providing the guest room network for
free. In addition, they have done a great job hosting the meeting!

Thank you, Alcatel-Lucent!

</The IAOC Chair hat on>

Cheers,

Jonne.

PS. If anybody feels they have capability to build a better network, please,
show it by hosting one of the future meetings. You can find the hosting
opportunities from http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt. They are
clearly marked as "Host: TBD". Thank you.


-- 
Jonne Soininen
Nokia Siemens Networks

Tel: +358 40 527 46 34
E-mail: jonne.soininen@nsn.com


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