Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was: Re: Clarifying Host Responsibilities )

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Mon, 11 August 2008 18:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs (was: Re: Clarifying Host Responsibilities )
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On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
> However, we do have to consider the location, as I
> found that Internet is not nearly as widely available in much of
> Ireland, including in Dublin hotels.  I stayed in a supposed "business
> class" hotel in Dublin for two days prior to the meeting and had no
> Internet access except for the pay 10 euros per minute console in the
> lobby - those same sorts of consoles were the Internet source at the
> Cork airport, as well.

I stayed at the Tallaght Cross Hotel in Tallaght, about 7km from the  
IETF hotel, for the duration of IETF.   There was free WiFi in the  
lobby, and free 10baseT internet in the room.   This was at a  
reasonably inexpensive but high-quality hotel, whose main customers  
seem to be tourists and family of patients at the nearby hospital.    
I.e., not people on expense accounts.

My experience has been that the more the hotel caters to people who  
are on expense accounts, the more likely they are to charge a fee for  
internet access.   Unfortunately, I think we're stuck with hotels like  
this, because the IETF is too big to fit into a typical tourist hotel.

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