Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person
"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> Wed, 06 August 2008 14:42 UTC
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To: Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>, Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>
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What is the objective here? Do you want Paris Hilton to make a video about us or something? http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d ________________________________ From: 72attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Vint Cerf Sent: Wed 8/6/2008 4:03 AM To: Dave Crocker Cc: 72attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person as to the second criterion, people like larry roberts, paul baran, leonard kleinrock and donald w davies would be the winners although as far as I know, none of them has been active in IETF (although I think Larry tried to get IETF to adopt some of his QOS ideas didn't he?). Steve was certainly involved in ARPANET officially before I was but we both worked on a proposal to provide the ARPANET to ARPA while we were working for Jacobi Systems in Santa Monica as graduate students at UCLA. vint On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:29 AM, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > Merely to see whether there might be interesting, other choice, > given interesting, other criteria: > > > The IETF derived from the existing efforts to develop and operate > the Internet. So, two earlier dates might be: > > "Earliest involvement -- or oldest person involved in the earlier > activities --in the world of TCP (excluding IP, because it was not > part of the original effort), and > > "Earliest involvement -- or oldest person -- in the preceding > packet work, including Arpanet and related efforts in other countries. > > Almost by definition, Vint has to win the first one, so I'm > inclined to suggest starting from 1976, when there was a broader > effort doing initial implementation. I suspect Vint still wins. > > Vint probably wins the second one, but perhaps it's Steve. > > > /Crocker Jr. > > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > 72attendees mailing list > 72attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
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- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Muenich)
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Lloyd Wood
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Scott Brim
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Tom Taylor
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Pete Resnick
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Michael StJohns
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Scott Brim
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person Dave Thaler