Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

I didn't suggested that Madrid was bidding against Dublin.

Regards,
Jordi

> From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
> Reply-To: <kurtis@kurtis.pp.se>
> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:34:09 +0200
> To: Jordi Palet Martínez <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
> Cc: <72attendees@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom
> Network not under NOC Control)
> 
> 
> Jordi,
> 
> On 29 jul 2008, at 12.01, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> 
>> And when you find volunteer hosts which find the money, the venue
>> and so on,
>> such as myself in Madrid, trying for several years, then you
>> disqualify the
>> venue because is not in down-town ... A very fair comparison with
>> this one
>> or even San Diego.
>> 
>> Madrid venue was much better (even being the first hotel in the
>> world that
>> offered IPv6 in the guest rooms several years ago, no filtered
>> ports/protocols at all !), much better located, much cheaper, better
>> commuting to downtown (cheaper and shorter), better food, more
>> restaurant
>> choices in the venue and around, etc.
>> 
>> So the first that make the possible hosts and sponsors to step down
>> is the
>> organization itself with ridiculous decisions which are then taken as
>> irrelevant for other venues (and Dublin is a very good example).
>> 
>> Now I'm not sure wanting to spend anymore my cycles in retrying this
>> again
>> unless there is a firm commitment. I bothered the government to much
>> to
>> raise +150.000 Euros for sponsoring this and I'm not even sure they
>> will
>> consider it again.
> 
> At least as long as I was on the IAOC (during BTW when this proposal
> was evaluated) we every now and then (but not always) have several
> venues to select from and then does a site evaluation and weighs the
> pros and cons. That is then discussed with the localhosts and
> eventually a venue is selected. The IAOC never provides public
> comments or names the venues not selected or the reasons for it. When
> there are multiple choices there will always be venues not selected,
> of the venues that have not been selected the only one that keep
> coming back up here is that you bring up your failed bid for Madrid.
> But what I really wanted to comment on is that the above sounds like
> MAdrid was considered as an alternative to Dublin. AFAIK it never was.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> - kurtis -
> 
> 
> 

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