Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)
Christopher LILJENSTOLPE <cdl@asgaard.org> Tue, 29 July 2008 16:13 UTC
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Subject: Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Having hosted twice... +1 Chris On 28 Jul 2008, at 16.07, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: > > On 29 jul 2008, at 00.11, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > >> On 28 jul 2008, at 22:56, Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo) wrote: >> >>> In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of crowd. >>> They are >>> made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. Not >>> for the >>> hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to >>> something they >>> wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean >>> upgrading the >>> whole network - not an option. >> >>> So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have >>> given us >>> extra! >> >> >> I find this a rather condescending attitude, especially as the >> powers that be have deemed it necessary to select a venue that >> pretty much precludes any choice on the part of the participants. > > "the powers that be" are trying to optimize location / > internationalization / the host that PAYs preferences to location > for their needs / and a number of factors including availability of > a hotel. This equation is far from easy, but what worries me greatly > is that we in the future find any hosts at all given that the only > thing you can expect as a host is complaints and endless threads > about visa / robbery / cookies / how the showers works threads on > mailinglist. > > Best regards, > > - kurtis - > > > > _______________________________________________ > 72attendees mailing list > 72attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees > - --- 李柯睿 Check my PGP key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB67593B -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIjlTzAAoJEGmx2Mt/+Iw/DvoH/j1pC+XTSbLzGf2kVFS5vTy+ PgAWNnSnjCD5HG1Z0rcvG6dqDnW3/GKpS8gF5y6vAnB8gJYHs4oiN1Gp3gUCqQoa iFcxBo1ach2Oo6c8KZ/r+KcXxII55OM6/pnioeTiBpFVjDa2pGPCbGNvo9yzDOxG WgxKwKEF44Jy5Ml6RBsf7+dbpXYH3hzjXTdZFKDpv50Y+T2WKCBpqAemh2bi5Egm TPZFhUMS+EPLd/eRi4eGmXtxH/VgvryggGCTQu+8qq7ikvstq1mU4GRiBkOe0csv CLb4vwQ0+qAMownKqDAlQ7ipB7mAAJdY0jLrrw1jISeunFnXnxo9B68fMNUUwD0= =5Cwy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
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- Re: [72attendees] Guestroom Network not under NOC… Balazs Lengyel
- [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (w… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Thomas Walsh
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Bill Fenner
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Eric Gray
- Re: [72attendees] Guestroom Network not under NOC… Paul Hoffman
- [72attendees] Found - YubiKey Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Lloyd Wood
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Thomas Froment
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Kurt Erik Lindqvist
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- Re: [72attendees] Moving to social event Francis Dupont
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [72attendees] Moving to social event Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Rosen, Brian
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Derek Atkins
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
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- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilitie… Randall Gellens
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- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … John C Klensin
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- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Kurt Erik Lindqvist
- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Dale Worley
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- Re: [72attendees] Meeting arrangements and costs … Ole Jacobsen
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