Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re: Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

Christopher LILJENSTOLPE <cdl@asgaard.org> Tue, 29 July 2008 16:13 UTC

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Having hosted twice... +1

	Chris

On 28 Jul 2008, at 16.07, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

>
> On 29 jul 2008, at 00.11, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>
>> On 28 jul 2008, at 22:56, Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo) wrote:
>>
>>> In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of crowd.  
>>> They are
>>> made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. Not  
>>> for the
>>> hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to  
>>> something they
>>> wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean  
>>> upgrading the
>>> whole network - not an option.
>>
>>> So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have  
>>> given us
>>> extra!
>>
>>
>> I find this a rather condescending attitude, especially as the  
>> powers that be have deemed it necessary to select a venue that  
>> pretty much precludes any choice on the part of the participants.
>
> "the powers that be" are trying to optimize location /  
> internationalization / the host that PAYs preferences to location  
> for their needs / and a number of factors including availability of  
> a hotel. This equation is far from easy, but what worries me greatly  
> is that we in the future find any hosts at all given that the only  
> thing you can expect as a host is complaints and endless threads  
> about visa / robbery / cookies / how the showers works threads on  
> mailinglist.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - kurtis -
>
>
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