Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities (was Re:Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)

["Eric Gray" <[e-mail]>]

Hmmmm.  The wired network in my room has what certainly looks like 
a permanently attached card that says "Broadband Internet Access 
With Compliments of The Management" - which indicates (to me) that
the host's involvement in the "free" in-room network was probably
limited to selection of this very nice hotel.

But I agree that the tone of the discussion on this list has been
rather more severe toward both the sponsor(s), and the hotel, than
either deserves.  While I have had some trouble with the conference
network, I think it is improving.  The service and accomodations
of this venue are totally excellent, even if the hotel is pretty
far from the center of things, and I think we could be considerably
more patient if the hotel staff seems somewhat overwhelmed by our
strange behaviours as a group...

--
Eric Gray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] 
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:23 PM
> To: Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [72attendees] Clarifying Host Responsibilities 
> (was Re:Guestroom Network not under NOC Control)
> 
> +1 from here too.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo) wrote:
> 
> > Everybody complaining about the guest room network,
> >
> > <The IAOC Chair hat on>
> >
> > I have a bit of sentiment that people don't understand the 
> guest room
> > network is not the primary responsibility of the host. It is extra  
> > what we
> > get if the host (this time Alcatel-Lucent) decides to 
> provide it for  
> > us for
> > free. We have network requirements for hosts at
> > http://iaoc.ietf.org/network_requirements.html for 
> everybody to check.
> >
> > I have a bit of sentiment that the people complaining about the  
> > guest room
> > network have a hard time appreciating what it means to get free  
> > access to
> > the Internet from the hotel rooms and what it costs. Usually getting
> > "ownership" of the hotel network is not an option, but never it is a
> > priority. The priority is to get the meeting, production 
> network to  
> > work.
> > That is what the host is responsible for. If you have 
> problems with  
> > that,
> > you can submit a ticket at [e-mail].
> >
> > In addition, no hotel networks are made for this kind of 
> crowd. They  
> > are
> > made for "business people" who just download their e-mails. 
> Not for  
> > the
> > hotel full of geeks running everything from bittorrent to 
> something  
> > they
> > wrote last night after the bar. So, making it work would mean  
> > upgrading the
> > whole network - not an option.
> >
> > So, please, let's stop bashing our host about something they have  
> > given us
> > extra!
> >
> > I would like to thank our host for providing the guest room 
> network  
> > for
> > free. In addition, they have done a great job hosting the meeting!
> >
> > Thank you, Alcatel-Lucent!
> >
> > </The IAOC Chair hat on>
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jonne.
> >
> > PS. If anybody feels they have capability to build a better 
> network,  
> > please,
> > show it by hosting one of the future meetings. You can find the  
> > hosting
> > opportunities from 
> http://www.ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt. They  
> > are
> > clearly marked as "Host: TBD". Thank you.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Jonne Soininen
> > Nokia Siemens Networks
> >
> > Tel: [phone]
> > E-mail: [e-mail]
> >
> >
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