Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

[Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]>]

Dave,

The IAOC is aware of the situation with respect to visas for visitors 
from mainland China at this particular IETF meeting. Generally 
speaking, applicants are NOT refused visas, they just don't get a
reply (or a visa) in time and they may never get a reply at all.

We are not sure what happened this time, but we believe the "no reply" 
rate was much higher than normal and we will be working with various
parties to try to make this easier in the future.

It's worth noting that the visa situation for most countries in the 
world is by no means "static" so it's not just as simple as picking
a list of venues with the most favorable visa situation, as this may
have changed by the time we get round to having the meeting --- which,
as you know, we try to schedule as far in advance as possible, in
the 1 - 2 year range.

As for being "dragged into politics," this is unfortunately not easy
to avoid either. I probably don't need to mention the three^H^H^H^H^Hone
China issue for example.

Ole (IAOC Meetings subcommittee chair)

Ole J. Jacobsen 
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Dave CROCKER wrote:
>
> It's not a matter of being dragged into politics.  (Or at least, it shouldn't
> be.)
> 
> It's essentially an engineering task of working to maximize the ability of
> people to attend IETF meetings, by looking for venues where visa processing is
> the least problematic.
> 
> That does not mean "no visas" or anything else simplistic, except that border
> controls do not impose undue and unpredictable barriers.
> 
> d/
> -- 
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