Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

How about we deputize someone to go ask State what the best way to maximize
the probability of a prompt acceptance is?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:29 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:24 AM, YAO <healthyao@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   Meetings should not be held in countries where some attendees could
> >   be disallowed entry
>
>
> Is this thread still going? Heck, just hold it on a boat. Change the
> IETF conference into an IETF cruise in international waters.
>
> In all seriousness though, the State Department is a bureaucracy and
> like any bureaucracy it likes things that file into neatly prepared
> categories. When an attendee presents a letter of invitation from the
> IETF of Fremont, CA 94538, I imagine the first thing the investigator
> does is go to http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/list.html and put in "Internet
> Engineering Task Force." Failing to find anything, he might try the
> same at http://rct.doj.ca.gov/MyLicenseVerification/Search.aspx?facility=Y
> or another site like it. Finding nothing there, he might possibly go
> to http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=ai1epe.1.1 and
> search for IETF since the logo on the invitation letter claims to be a
> registered trademark. This will lead him to something called the "IETF
> Trust" of Reston Virginia. So, he may got to
> http://www.scc.virginia.gov/clk/bussrch.aspx but that won't find
> anything IETF. Since the meeting is held in Minnesota, he may try
> http://www.sos.state.mn.us/home/index.asp?page=792 as well, but he
> still won't find anything.
>
> Next the investigator may pick up the phone, call Wanda Lo and ask
> what the heck this IETF thing is, but by then you've raised three Red
> Flags: an organization that doesn't appear to legally exist at the
> given address, has a trademarked registered on the other side of the
> country to an entity that also doesn't appear to exist and is
> allegedly holding a conference in still another part of the country
> where it doesn't seem to legally exist. To an investigator who doesn't
> know "Internet Engineering Task Force" from "George Walker Elementary
> School Little League," that means your application goes into the
> "we'll get back to you" queue.
>
> I could be dead wrong. I've never worked in immigration and I don't
> personally know anyone who has. But that's my SWAG.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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