Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?
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And there goes the paranoia of people who get scared every time they cross a border. They are always so evil on the other side. There are parts of Philadelphia where I believe exactly the same applies, yet we have meetings there. But the main thing about anywhere in Mexico is that to get a reasonable selection of ecomonical flights, you need to transit through the US to get there, as as the US does not have any international transit, guess what, you need to enter the US to do that. regards Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: 73attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:73attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dean Willis > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:53 PM > To: Ted Lemon > Cc: 73attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor > 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria? > > > On Nov 18, 2008, at 10:26 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > > Mexico City, for example. > > > > Sure, if you want 40% of our attendees kidnapped for ransom > and another 20% arrested on faux charges and fined heavily. > Mexico City is a HUGELY not safe place for people who don't > know their way around. > Those who DO know only travel with trusted bodyguards. Do > you, for example, know the difference between Libre and Sitio > taxis? Most people don't, but there is a big one . . . > mostly, how many days the kidnappers hold you to keep pumping > the ATM dry. > > The US may be a pain for immigration purposes, but I don't > think we're losing many people to crime in Minneapolis. > Nobody mugs the locals; many are lawfully armed, and most of > them wouldn't put up with that sort of behavior. > > See: > > http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Minneapolis&state=MN > > http://www.osac.gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=43999 > > > -- > Dean > _______________________________________________ > 73attendees mailing list > 73attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees > _______________________________________________ 73attendees mailing list 73attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 ofdraf… 张国强
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ross Callon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… qdang
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Eric Gray
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… George Michaelson
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Mike McBride (mmcbride)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randall Gellens
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified or not ? Max Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Scott Brim
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Melinda Shore
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… David Quigley
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Yi Zhao
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Yi Zhao
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor 2.3ofdraft-… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… David Kessens
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified or not ? Massimiliano Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Gene Gaines
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dean Willis
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Matthew Ford
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Nicholas Weaver
- Re: [73attendees] Is USAqualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-pa… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Max Pala
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Randy Bush
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Fernando Gont
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Fred Baker
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- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Tom.Petch
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… YAO Jiankang
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-p… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3ofdraft-… Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Jari Arkko
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [73attendees] IsUSA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft… Phillip Hallam-baker
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