Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 18 November 2008 17:38 UTC

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--On Tuesday, 18 November, 2008 14:24 +0800 YAO
<healthyao@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> according to IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-sele
> ction-criteria-04#section-2.3
> 
> which said "
> 
> 2.3.  Freedom of Participation
> 
>    Meetings should not be held in countries where some
> attendees could    be disallowed entry or where freedom of
> speech is not guaranteed for    all participants.

(cross-posting removed)

(1) to the very limited extent to which anything can be done
from this end, you need to request invitation letters (which may
or may not help, but can't hurt) and ask for help as early as
possible, not wait until after the meeting has started.  It
might not have made any difference -- indeed, it probably would
not have -- but we will never know.

(2) While it probably won't be immediate, some of us hope that
things will get better in this area, as well as some others,
after January 20.

      john



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