Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country

On Dec 5, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Roni Even wrote:

> This may work for one night, but try doing it a whole week, this is  
> like not
> being home for the whole time.

It would be worse in my opinion.

I do a lot of work with India (10.5 hours from the US East Coast), so  
I have some experience here.

A few hours per day on the phone starting at 5:00 AM EST (== 3:30 PM  
IST), sure.
8 hours per day for a week starting at 10:30 PM EST would be very  
problematic. Jet-lag is
tough when you IN a new time zone, with the Sun telling you when it is  
day. It
is impossible (for me, at least) when you are NOT in the new time  
zone. For
example, right now the morning Sun is pouring through the windows, and
if the IETF was meeting in India I should be going to bed.

Plus, many people have home or office environments where there are  
disruptions at certain times of day
(e.g., kids getting ready for school) that are hard to avoid if you  
are present. Whenever I attend a interim meeting or something similar  
remotely I miss pieces of them due to this.

I should point out that Cisco, Polycom and Tandberg all send people to  
the IETF and all have sets of Telepresence demo / rental suites around  
the planet. Going to such a facility for a remote meeting would be  
very attractive to me if it  was within a reasonable distance and  
would be an effective form of sponsorship in kind IMO. Given the  
likely time zone differences, some cots would be useful too.

Regards
Marshall

>
> I have the experience of leaving in a time zone that is 10 hours  
> ahead of
> the US west coast. Joining a whole day meeting on the west coast meant
> starting at 19:00 (9:00 AM on west coast) and going till 4 or 5 AM.  
> This is
> not what I will call a reasonable meeting from my part. I was able  
> to do it
> for one day in order not to travel but for 5 days I preferred the  
> travel.
> This is not taking into account the user experience of joining from  
> remote a
> meeting were a large group was sitting in the same room and had better
> interaction (I support Brian Rosen view on this)
> Roni Even
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melinda Shore [mailto:mshore@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:43 PM
> To: Andrew Allen; ron.even.tlv@gmail.com; Scott W Brim; mellon@fugue.com
> Cc: 73attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
>
> On 12/4/08 4:31 PM, "Andrew Allen" <aallen@rim.com> wrote:
>> It just don't work!
>
> Are you sure?  I got up for the Seoul meeting and for the
> Dublin meeting and I found that for me it was a lot easier
> than dealing with jetlag.  If nothing else I could shuffle
> into the kitchen and get myself some decent coffee whenever
> I felt like it instead of having to wait for breaks.
>
> Somebody's going to be inconvenienced no matter what.  Let's
> start with that as a given.
>
> Melinda
>
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