Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Sat, 22 November 2008 19:30 UTC
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On Nov 22, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > Have you tried, or is this just an assumption you are making? > > The argument I would make to state here is that if we can show that > the person who is applying for the visa has been contributing to the > work of the IETF for an extended time, there really is very little > risk of them overstaying their visa. People who might qualify for an > H1B are unlikely to risk their chances of obtaining one legitimately. This, along with the suggestion of making sure that the person processing the visa knows what the IETF is, are both excellent suggestions. While I personally would be happy to do IETFs in Montreal instead of Minneapolis, because I really like Montreal, I get the impression that a lot of IETFers actually appreciate the opportunity to come to the 'States, pain in the neck though it may be. So all kidding aside, I think it's worth exploring the suggestions people have made for how to solve this problem, rather than simply trying to step around it. _______________________________________________ 73attendees mailing list 73attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… John C Klensin
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… William Herrin
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Bob Hinden
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ed Jankiewicz
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Simon Leinen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Michal Krsek
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Dale Worley
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… William Herrin
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for2.3 of draf… Paul, Manuel
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- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Randy Bush
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Fred Baker
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… John C Klensin
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Derek Atkins
- Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of dra… Phillip Hallam-Baker
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