Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

Let us ask a different question

In what ways can the ietf act to maximize the information available to  
the embassy in question to enable them to determine that the  
application comes from an active ietf participant?

A letter of invitation to a conference is likely to carry less  
information than a statement that person x has been an active wg  
participant for five years yadda yadda yadda

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On Nov 19, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Dave CROCKER <dhc2@dcrocker.net> wrote:

>
>
> Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>> speaking, applicants are NOT refused visas, they just don't get a
>> reply (or a visa) in time and they may never get a reply at all.
>
> The key point is that there was a pattern of failure to get a visa.   
> To me, the remaining details are purely secondary.
>
>
>> We are not sure what happened this time, but we believe the "no  
>> reply" rate was much higher than normal and we will be working with  
>> various
>> parties to try to make this easier in the future.
>
> My concern is with hearing about a pattern of problems over the last  
> several years, for people from a range of countries.  The issue is  
> not specific to this meeting or a single country.
>
> Added to this, of course, is that in the last few years, the U.S.  
> has lost its Most Favored Nation status as a travel destination
>
> No venue will be perfect, but among the complex mix of factors  
> affecting choice of IETF meeting sites, travel hassles that include  
> government bureaucracy and social (dis)favor ought to be included,  
> to the extent that we have evidence they affect attendance.
>
> d/
> -- 
>
>  Dave Crocker
>  Brandenburg InternetWorking
>  bbiw.net
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