Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
"Phillip Hallam-Baker" <hallam@gmail.com> Thu, 04 December 2008 21:14 UTC
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Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:14:16 -0500
From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
To: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
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Cc: "Rosen, Brian" <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz>, 73attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country
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The other important effect is that some people find it somewhat harder to conduct feuds with people they have met in person than those who they only know remotely. If alt.flame had held regular in person meetings... On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> wrote: > Dean is spot on here. Personally there is nothing like buying someone a > beer or not too subtle threats in their face to foster the spirit of > "rough > consensus". > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 73attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:73attendees- > > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dean Willis > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:09 PM > > To: Scott Brim > > Cc: Rosen, Brian; 73attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [73attendees] Attendance by country > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > > > > > Excerpts from Rosen, Brian at 14:29:15 -0500 on Thu 4 Dec 2008: > > >> But, as I said, that's just the session part. You can't get the > > non > > >> session part to work for remote participants. > > > > > > Imagine you don't have the non-session part, since you have no > > > in-person meeting. How does your work suffer? Now, being the smart > > > guy you are but not having any travel budget, how do you compensate? > > > > My work would go down the crapper. Most of what I (usefully) do is get > > two or three people with intractable positions into a face to face > > situation and browbeat them into a compromise. That's Really Hard > > remotely. > > > > -- > > Dean > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 73attendees mailing list > > 73attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 73attendees mailing list > 73attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees > -- Author: The dotCrime Manifesto: How to Stop Internet Crime http://dotcrimemanifesto.com
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