Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

Regarding IETF meetings outside of the US, over the past 5 years (2003
to 2008) there have been 8 (out of 15 meetings) (5 of 15 have been
outside North America):

Dublin
Vancouver
Prague
Montreal
Vancouver
Paris
Seoul
Vienna

In all cases, attendance has been greater than, or just less than, one
of the consecutive meetings.  So we can conclude:

- meetings outside of North America have been underrepresented by at
most 50% (relative to GDP)

- meetings in Canada are overrepresented by about 600% (relative to GDP)

- meetings outside the US and outside North America do not suffer poor
attendance

In regard to the restriction of travel, freedom of expression, etc.,
someone needs to compare-and-contrast the US with other possible venues,
so that we can argue about which countries are acceptable.

On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 12:13 -0500, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> How about we deputize someone to go ask State what the best way to
> maximize the probability of a prompt acceptance is?

As John says, the problem could be some petty feud.  Even more likely is
that it is some common bureaucratic problem, such as a clerical position
that is not filled, an incompetent manager, etc.  Unfortunately,
visa-issuing is one part of the bureaucracy which never deals with
citizens, so the normal political feedback to enforce a minimum level of
performance is not in effect.

If we really want to know what is going wrong, we should ask someone
whose job depends on knowing what is going on, that is, a lawyer who
specializes in obtaining visas into the US.

Dale

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