Re: [73attendees] Is USA qualified for 2.3 of draft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?
Derek Atkins <warlord@pgp.com> Mon, 24 November 2008 17:10 UTC
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Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > --On Friday, November 21, 2008 05:33:48 PM -0800 Ole Jacobsen > <ole@cisco.com> wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: >> >>> On 21 nov 2008, at 11:17, William Herrin wrote: >>> >>> > Unfortunately, aside from the general instructions on the web site, >>> > they won't tell you. Security through obscurity. ;) >>> >>> Maybe it would be more helpful to complain to the Chinese government, >>> they'll have more incentive to solve this. >> >> What makes you think this has ANYTHING to do with the Chinese >> government??? > > The Chinese government, to state the obvious, is the government of > Chinese citizens. If Chinese citizens with legitimate business visiting > the US are having trouble obtaining visas to do so, the US government is > (marginally) more likely to be receptive to complaints from the Chinese > government than from individual Chinese citizens. Ahh, but would they (the US Govt) be receptive to complaints from US Citizens? > -- Jeff -derek -- Derek Atkins Principal Software Engineer PGP Corporation 4 Farragut Ave Somerville, MA 02144 +1 617 623 3745 | warlord@pgp.com PGP Corporation -- Rest Secured.(TM) PGP Fingerprint: 0FEE 5EA1 FF22 E0C9 4FFE 631A 9232 FF93 1C80 1DB7 This email and any attachments thereto may contain private, confidential, and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. _______________________________________________ 73attendees mailing list 73attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/73attendees
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