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Re: [73attendees] Is USAqualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?

"YAO Jiankang" <yaojk@cnnic.cn> Wed, 19 November 2008 01:09 UTC

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicholas Weaver" <nweaver@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU>
To: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>
Cc: "Nicholas Weaver" <nweaver@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU>DU>; <ietf@ietf.org>rg>; "Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@nsn.com>om>; <73attendees@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [73attendees] Is USAqualifiedfor2.3ofdraft-palet-ietf-meeting-venue-selection-criteria?


> 
> On Nov 18, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
> 
>> I recall stats from IETF 71 (which may be out of date).  I believe at
>> that time, 48% of attendees were from the U.S.  Next was Japan with  
>> 9%,
>> then China with 5.7%.  If I recall correctly, this was a good number  
>> of
>> attendees from China, but I do not know how that compared to IETF 72  
>> or
>> to IETF 73.  Is the visa issue for visitors from all countries  
>> coming to
>> the U.S., or is this specific to Chinese citizens coming to the U.S.
>>
>> Jason
> 
> The US offers a large number in the Visa Waiver program:
> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html
> 
> Which is basically EU + Japan + australia,

yes, sure.
all these countries are developed countries.

IETFers from developing countries are not easy to get a visa to USA.

> 
> Plus Canada under a different category.
> 
> I would bet (but have no evidence) that the visa problem is almost  
> specifically a chinese issue.
> 
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